Diamond Pro-Am or Rasson Victory II
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Not a big fan of the Rasson. Some might like it for the "modern" appearance, but IMHO I think the diamond plays and looks better.
I haven't played on both and have trouble following direction.
I believe Rasson is only on the map due to lots of sponsorship/funding of events. But when I play on both, I feel that Diamond is structurally sounder.
Im not big on being bossed around either
Diamond, by far. No comparison.
The rasson sucks when compared to a diamond. I hate playing on those. They remind me of a cheap home table that should be far less $$$ than they are.
Then again, I had rather pay for a diamond than to get a Rawson for free.
The rasson sucks when compared to a diamond. I hate playing on those. They remind me of a cheap home table that should be far less $$$ than they are.
Then again, I had rather pay for a diamond than to get a Rawson for free.
Quantifiable differences:
The Diamond 9' Pro Am And Professional both have Artemis Intercontinental 66 Cushions ( K55 profile)
The Rasson Victory 2 has the Artemis Pool 66 Cushions ( K66 profile )
There is a difference between them and I would definitely say the Diamond is a better playing table.
Just my 2 Cents.
The Diamond 9' Pro Am And Professional both have Artemis Intercontinental 66 Cushions ( K55 profile)
The Rasson Victory 2 has the Artemis Pool 66 Cushions ( K66 profile )
There is a difference between them and I would definitely say the Diamond is a better playing table.
Just my 2 Cents.
If you've never played on both tables, please stay silent
Rack those balls
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The OP lives in the Philippines.....I imagine proximity is a factor.
I see it as a legit question. There are plenty of people that don’t like the way Diamond tables play, me included.
Now we have a new player on the field. It’s a fair question to ask how they stack up. Especially due to their recent international sponsorship of cue sports.
Now we have a new player on the field. It’s a fair question to ask how they stack up. Especially due to their recent international sponsorship of cue sports.
I would choose Diamond Pro Am, especially the one piece slate version.
Having said that, I know lots of players that hate playing on Diamond tables, they are used to factory GC 3, 4 or 5 and cant seem to adjust to the way Diamond tables bank and the sharp angle on the side pockets.
Rasson is sort of a hybrid, slightly tighter pockets than a GC and with a deeper shelf, alltough not as deep as on Diamond. The aluminum profile base on Rasson is pretty cool, not sure about the durability though.
Having said that, I know lots of players that hate playing on Diamond tables, they are used to factory GC 3, 4 or 5 and cant seem to adjust to the way Diamond tables bank and the sharp angle on the side pockets.
Rasson is sort of a hybrid, slightly tighter pockets than a GC and with a deeper shelf, alltough not as deep as on Diamond. The aluminum profile base on Rasson is pretty cool, not sure about the durability though.
The main issue in this comparison question is so few people have played on, or own, Rasson tables, whereas there are a lot of people who have played on, or own, Diamond tables for over a decade now. With the Diamond you know exactly what you are getting, the pros and cons are well established as well as it's bona fides in professional tournament conditions.
The few professional tournaments that have used Rasson tables are being sponsored to do so. All the tables used appear to have been setup differently for each one, making comparison hard to make. Several have had obvious issues.
I did play briefly on a Rasson Victory II at Billiards and Darts Direct who sell them here in southern California. It felt more similar to a Diamond than a Brunswick Gold Crown due to how the pockets were cut. Unfortunately like a Gold Crown they also do not appear to be able to make the corner castings line up accurately enough to satisfy my OCD brain. I quite like the surface texture the rails have, which has wood grain you can feel unlike the Dymalux/Dymondwood Diamond rails which are smooth. There is some debate on the stability of the aluminium frame in environments with large swings of temperature and/or humidity, and again their lack of a track record makes it hard to know how much of an issue this will or won't be.
The dealer told me it takes them 12 hours to assemble the Victory II from scratch given the complexity of the metal frame. To be fair it can take this long to assemble a Diamond Pro too, although of course a Pro-Am with 1-piece slate can be setup much faster. The price they quoted me for a new one was about 20% more expensive than a brand new Diamond Pro or Pro Am which surprised me given they are trying to break into the market.
Therefore IMHO, unless there is total lack of availability of Diamond tables in your area, or Rasson greatly lower their prices, or you just really prefer the ascetics of the Rasson, I see no reason to get the Rasson over a Diamond at present.
The few professional tournaments that have used Rasson tables are being sponsored to do so. All the tables used appear to have been setup differently for each one, making comparison hard to make. Several have had obvious issues.
I did play briefly on a Rasson Victory II at Billiards and Darts Direct who sell them here in southern California. It felt more similar to a Diamond than a Brunswick Gold Crown due to how the pockets were cut. Unfortunately like a Gold Crown they also do not appear to be able to make the corner castings line up accurately enough to satisfy my OCD brain. I quite like the surface texture the rails have, which has wood grain you can feel unlike the Dymalux/Dymondwood Diamond rails which are smooth. There is some debate on the stability of the aluminium frame in environments with large swings of temperature and/or humidity, and again their lack of a track record makes it hard to know how much of an issue this will or won't be.
The dealer told me it takes them 12 hours to assemble the Victory II from scratch given the complexity of the metal frame. To be fair it can take this long to assemble a Diamond Pro too, although of course a Pro-Am with 1-piece slate can be setup much faster. The price they quoted me for a new one was about 20% more expensive than a brand new Diamond Pro or Pro Am which surprised me given they are trying to break into the market.
Therefore IMHO, unless there is total lack of availability of Diamond tables in your area, or Rasson greatly lower their prices, or you just really prefer the ascetics of the Rasson, I see no reason to get the Rasson over a Diamond at present.
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Thanks all for your answer. I asked this question without talking about price difference, to see what people would choose. I love Diamond tables and I like Rasson tables, but the main things is, here in the Philippines, Rasson have a dealer and they sell it lower than MSRP price at 6.500 US$
If I go for the Diamond, I need to buy it abroad, in Thailand or in US, and with crazy importing taxes here in the Philippines, a Diamond Pro-Am cost all in all, 2.600 US$ more than a Rasson.
Rasson 6.500 US$
Diamond 9.100 US$
Is it worth the difference to go with a Diamond? Not sure.
Look at it this way:
Which table would you enjoy the most when playing on it?
Which table would be worth more in the future if you decided to sell it?
Which table would you enjoy the most when playing on it?
Which table would be worth more in the future if you decided to sell it?