Diamond Professional (IT'S FINALLY HERE!!!)

Bunch of y'all worried about my windows. Do people really have that much trouble keeping the cue ball on the table? I can't remember the last time i lost the cb off the table and it was likely a bounce off a jump.

I've got a GoPro mounted mid table near the ceiling and a TV on the wall at the head of the table.
I know, right? I think pool halls should institute a $5 penalty every time someone knocks the cue ball off of the table. Seems to always happen to the same people during leagues. Put that money in a break and run pot.
 
1-piece is the default for the ProAm and Professional (and i assume the Paragon), but 3 is an option. I'm on the 3rd floor, so a 1-piece wasn't going to happen (although technically it would have fit up the stairs).
Then we do have same table.

Wish you had bought mine...!
 
Broke dry with no look most of the first day, so i guess i need to dumpster it and buy an Arc... ;) :ROFLMAO:

Ok, joke's out of the way: Holy expletives this thing is beautiful.
So grateful to Tim at Tables Plus MN and Jerry at CR's for making this happen, it was SO worth the wait.

9' Diamond Professional, Black Oak, Simonis 860 in Shark Gray, 4-1/8" Corners, 4-5/8" sides, no engraved logos.
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Beautiful! All that glass scares me though! 😄
 
Please video your breaking. Just want to see just how full of shit protege really is. ;)
Got some good video today dialing in my break (had to make opposite adjustments from what I usually do). GoPro died right after my first 9b break, so missed that progression.
The vid is coming though. 🤣
 
Bunch of y'all worried about my windows. Do people really have that much trouble keeping the cue ball on the table? I can't remember the last time i lost the cb off the table and it was likely a bounce off a jump.

I've got a GoPro mounted mid table near the ceiling and a TV on the wall at the head of the table.
With me it is Murphy's Law. I'd psych myself out thinking "don't scoop the cue ball, don't scoop the cue ball", lol.

It is rare for me also, but every once in a while doing drills that involve draw or whatnot it can happen. During breaks it is rare but can happen also.
 
the sun is very bad for rails on your table In time they will harden if left in the sun. A good cover for your table.
 
Got some good video today dialing in my break (had to make opposite adjustments from what I usually do). GoPro died right after my first 9b break, so missed that progression.
The vid is coming though. 🤣
Gorgeous table and a video setup?!? As if we weren't all jealous enough...

You probably know this, but you can hook the gopro up to an external power source and remote control it with your phone via the gopro app. That's what I do when I'm recording pool. I get easily 9-10 hours of potential recording time with a small external battery clipped with the gopro to a lamp at the pool hall.
 
Gorgeous table and a video setup?!? As if we weren't all jealous enough...

You probably know this, but you can hook the gopro up to an external power source and remote control it with your phone via the gopro app. That's what I do when I'm recording pool. I get easily 9-10 hours of potential recording time with a small external battery clipped with the gopro to a lamp at the pool hall.
Yup, that is exactly what i'm doing. The camera is plugged into a switched outlet with the table light.
Been running into issues with the cameras overheating, so i've got a USB fan and stick-on heat sinks on the way.
 
That's a sweet setup! Diamond Professionals are built solid, and Simonis 860 is a workhorse cloth. Since you're asking about light height, you'll want the bottom of the fixture 30-36 inches above the playing surface, depending on your ceiling and how the light spreads. Too high and you lose brightness on the corners; too low and you get glare and shadows. A fuller guide here: https://billiardhome.com/blog/pool-table-light-height. Most pros use a 4-lamp or 6-lamp pendant centered over the table. Congratulations on the table hitting your door.
 
That's a sweet setup! Diamond Professionals are built solid, and Simonis 860 is a workhorse cloth. Since you're asking about light height, you'll want the bottom of the fixture 30-36 inches above the playing surface, depending on your ceiling and how the light spreads. Too high and you lose brightness on the corners; too low and you get glare and shadows. A fuller guide here: https://billiardhome.com/blog/pool-table-light-height. Most pros use a 4-lamp or 6-lamp pendant centered over the table. Congratulations on the table hitting your door.
I hung the light about 2 months before the table showed up. I did 50% of the recommended range from Perimeter.
I may raise it up, but I'll wait until fall for that.
 
I put my qty 2 LED 2x4 panel lights flush to my 8' ceiling above my GC4, against all the advice of xyz height from the slate. I had zero regrets. It lit the table as good or better than any pool hall I've ever been to. Zero fixtures to be in the way of the stick or my head. Zero fixtures to be hanging down and blocking the view (table was in my living room).

I think those height recommendations we still see quoted from sales people like the post that resurrected this thread are obsolete with the LED panels. Maybe in the 3 shade incadecent light days they were ok. Those heights are regurgitated recommendations over decades. I doubt anyone today has actually hung a modern light at many heights and compared them to form new guidelines.
 
... I doubt anyone today has actually hung a modern light at many heights and compared them to form new guidelines.
The rules/equipment specs have a requirement: the light intensity at all places on the playing surface should be at least 520 lux, which is 520 lumens per square meter. I got a lux meter on Amazon -- about $30. The local room is 160 lux at the end rails, and that's definitely not enough.
 
The rules/equipment specs have a requirement: the light intensity at all places on the playing surface should be at least 520 lux, which is 520 lumens per square meter. I got a lux meter on Amazon -- about $30. The local room is 160 lux at the end rails, and that's definitely not enough.
You're part of the rules. Those specs are all antiquated. There are typos all over the pocket sizes. For decades the pockets in the rules didn't reflect competition tables. I wouldn't trust anything in the rules for the light as far as I could throw a Gold Crown 4 table light.

Now, if a light company today hung their light at 6" increments over a wide range above the slate, and we had a subjective and objective measurement of how it lit the table, how it bothered or did not bother players eyes, how it bothered or did not bothered spectators eyes, we'd have something worth a damn.
 
What do you have above your light on the ceiling? What is it and what's its function?
They're acoustic panels. The living room and kitchen are all one space with hard floors and flat surfaces. The echo when i first moved in was BRUTAL. I have 4 more to hang, just need to decide where.

Love that artwork with Prince.
Thanks. These are prints of a friend's paintings. His sister commissioned it and has the originals, so unfortunately i've never seen them. I love how he uses blocks of bright color.

You're part of the rules. Those specs are all antiquated. There are typos all over the pocket sizes. For decades the pockets in the rules didn't reflect competition tables. I wouldn't trust anything in the rules for the light as far as I could throw a Gold Crown 4 table light.

Now, if a light company today hung their light at 6" increments over a wide range above the slate, and we had a subjective and objective measurement of how it lit the table, how it bothered or did not bother players eyes, how it bothered or did not bothered spectators eyes, we'd have something worth a damn.
I may raise it up 12", that would put it level with the ducts and i think it would look a little better. I don't think it will actually change the lighting of the table though. Next is curtains over the windows at the foot of the table (west facing). I was trying to avoid it, but i get light interference around 4-6pm in the summer. Won't be an issue in the winter, but i think i need to do something.
 
You're part of the rules. Those specs are all antiquated. ...
I haven't been involved with the equipment specs, but you're right -- the specs need work.

Here is a previous thread about lighting levels and temperature

 
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