Did Jon Kucharo have the most powerful break ever?

jay helfert

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Agreed. Looks like we interpreted the thread title differently. I took the word "powerful" literally, and DeLuna has the most powerful break that I've ever seen. If the question is to be interpreted as who has the most effective break ever, I think I'd have to go with SVB, but all the guys you mention are very much in the conversation.

Strictly on power I would put Kucharo and Breedlove on top of the list. Yes, even over DeLuna. Jeff would have been in awe of Jon's break I'm sure.
 

maha

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still all said, i would rather anyone but bustamante breaking against me for the cash.
 

smoochie

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When Jon Kucharo breaks the 9ball rack, it looks as if though he is pretty mad at the rack, that's how I see it when I watch him break. He hates it soo much he wants to beat it hard.
 

Tommy-D

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Probably most people here have watched the one Youtube vid of him crushing that one rack that was a screen cap from an Accu-Stats match.

I watched that match live (2000 U.S. Open),along with a practice session that same week of him hitting the balls pretty close to exactly like that for 2 hours straight. I swear he was hitting them so flush there was MAYBE a 5" circle in the middle of the table where his cue ball landed,and turned a TIGHT GC in their practice room look like a bar box,making the corner ball almost every time and usually at least one more.

During this session he never tried to run out,but he would have had a chance to run probably 30-40 racks in those 2 hours,without a Magic Rack. Tommy D.
 

pt109

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still all said, i would rather anyone but bustamante breaking against me for the cash.
Sometime in the early 90s, I think....they ran a radar thing at a tournament...
...Bustie and Tony Ellin topped the field at 34 MPH
...but I preferred Earl....he was 29 MPH....but more accurate
 

sjm

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Sometime in the early 90s, I think....they ran a radar thing at a tournament...
...Bustie and Tony Ellin topped the field at 34 MPH
...but I preferred Earl....he was 29 MPH....but more accurate
Yup, I remember that. I think it was in 1998. The record had been 33 mph up until then.
 

skogstokig

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wu cha ching, jeff de luna are on the top of my list. larry nevel has (or had) an extremely powerful break too and one of the most impressive strokes i've seen.
 

PoolPlayer4

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Not necessarily. I watched a tournament in Beaverton, Oregon on 7 foot tables. All the best players from the northwest were crushing the racks and nothing was going in for any of them. Then Don Whirtaman played, breaking at 3/4 speeds and the angles changed just enough that balls were falling all over the place.
Thanks Greg. Sorry, I kind of hijacked the thread. Us pool players always going off on tangent (lines). ;)

Back to the original point, Matlock told me that back in the day he was playing Wade Crane and Wade unintentionally broke before Dave made it away from the table from racking. Dave said his ears rang for 3 days. Wade apologized, as near as Dave could hear!
 

Nostroke

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I never really watched Larry Nevel enough to comment, but i agree with you on Hillbilly's break. In the top three the last twenty years for sure.
After Billy said Larry had the most powerful 'Stroke' in pool at the US Open, He got up there and the hardest he did was 25 MPH or less?-It looked much harder. Then Earl go up there and and his first try which didn't look all that hard was 26+. I saw GYK and Archer stand off and GYK was 22 and Archer 23. I've seen Sarah Rousey do 26+. Never saw a 30 from anyone.
 

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My guess would be about 26 MPH for Ginky. The biggest breaker from New York back then was Brooklyn's Frankie Hernandez, who once hit 33 MPH on the radar gun.
what about al bonife "new york blackie" ?
 

Cornerman

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I watched Dechaine hit over 35 at SBE a couple years ago, and the cueball went about 15 feet in the air. I also saw him approach 30 mph with one hand. His soft break is the most solid, efficient break I’ve ever seen.

Hillbilly and Nevel also have extremely explosive breaks, but I think Dechaine hits them even harder.

I think Kucharo is behind these three and De Luna, and there’s probably a few more in front of him.
 

livemusic

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Evgeny Stalev (Russian) averaged over 35 mph in his US Open appearances.

Wow, I watched a match of him and that is one heckuva break stroke he has, that is amazing. Never seen anyone draw it back like that. Even more amazing is how skinny he is, lol. Wiry athlete, he is.
 

Nostroke

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My guess would be about 26 MPH for Ginky. The biggest breaker from New York back then was Brooklyn's Frankie Hernandez, who once hit 33 MPH on the radar gun.
Was he ever from Brooklyn? I know Tony was. Frankie has been from Yonkers the last 20 plus years for sure unless he recently moved although most people say the Bronx. He is just over the line.
 

sjm

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Was he ever from Brooklyn? I know Tony was. Frankie has been from Yonkers the last 20 plus years for sure unless he recently moved although most people say the Bronx. He is just over the line.
Not only is Frankie from Brooklyn, but he and Tony both grew up playing in the poolroom owned by Tony's father. I believe it was in or around Bushwick.
 

Nostroke

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Not only is Frankie from Brooklyn, but he and Tony both grew up playing in the poolroom owned by Tony's father. I believe it was in or around Bushwick.
Makes sense-always wondered why those two opposites were such good friends-at one time anyway.
 

Nostroke

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My guess would be about 26 MPH for Ginky. The biggest breaker from New York back then was Brooklyn's Frankie Hernandez, who once hit 33 MPH on the radar gun.
Johnny B use to say "Bustamante has action" but no idea what his measured speed was. There was a B player or so from Corner Billiards that Ginky use to say had the hardest break in NY, but I can't recall his name. I think he may have moved to Florida-Pretty hazy on a lot of things these days- Could have told you 5 years ago for sure.
 

sjm

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Johnny B use to say "Bustamante has action" but no idea what his measured speed was. There was a B player or so from Corner Billiards that Ginky use to say had the hardest break in NY, but I can't recall his name. I think he may have moved to Florida-Pretty hazy on a lot of things these days- Could have told you 5 years ago for sure.
The hardest breaker I ever saw at Corner Billiards was named Ken Kerner. who was an "A" player. He won the break speed prize at Super Billiards Expo more than once, breaking at about 31-32 MPH. Ken hit the break roughly as hard as Frankie Hernandez.

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