Dieckman Sayzzzzzzzzzz......

Mr. Wadsworth, on your website you say you're a Master CueMaker, but in your Bio - I see No Cuemaker Names: That you study under, train under, apprentice, journey or quild with.

Other than OJT for cuemaking. Which doesn't make you a Master anything!!!
So how do you clarified yourself been a Master Cuemaker???? Aren't you just a Cuemaker?

BTW: This were the list for Carom Cuemaker in USA I original post ,which I fail to include Two Cuemakers. Which I will correct now!
Custom Carom Cue in USA
1.Dieckman,
2.Kilby,
3.Francisco Parra,
4.Schuler by Jacoby
5.Huf Cue

The follow two cuemakers also make Carom Cue, which I omitted in my original post in the CaromBilliard section.

6.Adrian Viguera
7.Paul Rubino



This thread was started by the future USBA President: Dieckman and a simple request: As Restated below:

Dear Fellow Sawdust Makers:

This is the first public announcement that I am making concerning a certain matter, and it is going to you my fellow cue builders before anybody else, except my mom. As of 1 Mar 2010 I will become the President of the United States Billiard Association, the governing body of carom billiards in this country. So if you have been wondering if the world has gone totally crazy, yes it has, now you know for certain.

So this is not your friend Dennis Dieckman writing this but the presumptive president of The USBA and of course I am asking you for a donation, not of your money but of your time. I am challenging each and every one of you to build a 3 Cushion Billiard and donate it to The USBA to help support that beautiful game.

Read More at post #1 http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2036062&postcount=1

Bob Watson
 
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Mr Dieckman

does a cue have to be built according to the specs you posted so it can be donated. the reason for the asking is i love to play 3c,and i have played with differant cues that have been built with specs something like the one you posted and i did not like them. i would consider donating a cue if i could do it with my 3c specs.

bill
 
although i don't really feel my work worthy of being included with the list that will most likely build cues for this, i as an american builder of both pool and carom cues with a steel pin for close to 20 years would like to participate.

i will get in touch with you soon.

M.C.
 
macguy said:
I have read this post several times and can't see anything that should have turned the thread into a argument. If someone doesn't have an interest they should have just clicked to another thread, why even respond. Strange.
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I would agree with that. Then I would not have had to waste my time replying to this ............

Total waste of my time, :smash: just felt I had to say SOMETHING tho...

Why this ..........even responded to this thread is beyond me. He certainly had nothing positive to say.
 
Dieckman Sayzzz

Arnot Wadsworth said:
To refer to me in the same sentence as Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's minister of propangada is totally uncalled for.

Dear Arnie, not IMHO.

You are not worthy of my time.
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So why did you reply ?? Looking for the last word are we?? :deadhorse::outtahere:
 
Magik Wandzzzzz said:
So why did you reply ?? Looking for the last word are we?? :deadhorse::outtahere:
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Maybe he replied because, regardless of how much bad blood is between you two, and regardless of who is right and who is wrong in their attitudes in this thread, regardless of our desire to stand up to someone who has wronged us, comparing him to a member of Hitler's regime was IMO grotesquely disproportional to the argument at hand. That was the only thing he quoted.

There is a certain vendor some of us buy from who gets a lot of bashing from time to time due to the way he runs his business. I was one who participated in some of the negative feedback based on my experience with him. But, when someone compared him to a child molester I defended the man and pleaded the poster remove his reference. There are just some lines honest men shouldn't cross, and references to child molesting and the haulacost might be some that qualify.

With all the bad shit in the world, its too bad men who make cues for a living can't find a way to be a little more civil and have a certain level of respect for each other. We don't have to always agree or even like each other, but come on. You are both Americans, either of you gonna kick the other out of a foxhole if you were facing a common enemy?

Regardless of who is at fault, I personally didn't find this entertaining...rather sad. Maybe I just don't enjoy a good show.

Dennis, I wish you luck in your new future role. Arnot, I wish you luck in your cuebuilding.

Kelly
 
Well said!

Kelly_Guy said:
Maybe he replied because, regardless of how much bad blood is between you two, and regardless of who is right and who is wrong in their attitudes in this thread, regardless of our desire to stand up to someone who has wronged us, comparing him to a member of Hitler's regime was IMO grotesquely disproportional to the argument at hand. That was the only thing he quoted.

There is a certain vendor some of us buy from who gets a lot of bashing from time to time due to the way he runs his business. I was one who participated in some of the negative feedback based on my experience with him. But, when someone compared him to a child molester I defended the man and pleaded the poster remove his reference. There are just some lines honest men shouldn't cross, and references to child molesting and the haulacost might be some that qualify.

With all the bad shit in the world, its too bad men who make cues for a living can't find a way to be a little more civil and have a certain level of respect for each other. We don't have to always agree or even like each other, but come on. You are both Americans, either of you gonna kick the other out of a foxhole if you were facing a common enemy?

Regardless of who is at fault, I personally didn't find this entertaining...rather sad. Maybe I just don't enjoy a good show.

Dennis, I wish you luck in your new future role. Arnot, I wish you luck in your cuebuilding.

Kelly
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Tap, tap tap!
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
Historicaly, the USBA players have not supported most of the American Cuemakers. There are very few 3C Billiard players that participate in this forum.

Most othe the 3C Billiard cues either come from you or Helmstetter in Japan. I know there are some exceptions to this statement but the point is that we cuemakers do not owe the USBA anything. You should be asking for the support of those who have been making a living building 3C Billiard cues.

I also wonder why it is suddenly ok to bulld a 3C Billiard Cue with a stainless steel pin when no "self-respecting 3C player" would own a billiard cue with anything but a wood pin?

I have donated a number of cues to exceptional causes over the years and I will continue to do so but it is a private matter and not one in which I expect to receive any credit.

You have not gone out of your way to make friends in this forum. In fact, most of your post are when you have something to sell or in this case want something to benefit your customers.

Now you say "Call me with questions please or just to talk. 734-428-1161.
" but years ago when I called you - you were overly rude to me.



Have a nice day.
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No offence meant, but couldn't this been stated to him in a pm instead of publicly, as this seems to be stricly a PERSONAL issue with the OP? You have been here long enough, Arnot to know that would be the better way. Instead you ended up looking a little more condescending then usual. I'm not taking sides, just stating the obvious.If you didn't want to donate, or even agree with the request, then PM your opinion, then move on. No harm, no foul. Instead you made an attack on the OP with what appears to be a personal swipe filled with what appears to be inaccuracies, because he was rude to you on the phone years ago? We're not 12 yr old anymore, come on. I do not condone or even understand why the Goebbels comment was made, but one way to look at it, if you didn't attack him publicly, he wouldn't have responded this way. Maybe you offended him as deeply as he returned to you.....You basically, publicly, called him a begger, user, freeloader, etc. and followed that up with what has been shown to be untrue statements. The statement of 'you reap what you sow' applies, IMO, here. In my opinion, your lack of response, to his response, shows that he called you out, after your attack, and you have nothing.......end of story.
The Goebbels comment, was IMO, out of line, but if not attacked first, for no reason, then no comment would have been made.
And as a side note, your comment to the OP ' not trying to make friends here' you own comments on this board haven't always been in the spirit of 'making' friends, such as this thread has shown.
Just My observations from the side lines,
Dave
 
Bumpin it up for a worthy cause. Thank you Dennis for this idea. Your particular brand of craziness suits me. Kind of like Zappa.... and/or :groucho:
 
I have worked up a drawing, so if anyone deeds dimensions on the cue graphically, based on Mr. Dieckman's original post, I have them.

PS the joint diameter will be 0.880 assuming you go with 56 inch OAL.
 
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