Difference between Pechauer 'Pro' & 'JP' series?

pmata814

pmata814

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....anyone know the difference? Is there a difference in playability between the Pro and JP series of pechauer cues?

I've just purchased a table and I am getting back into playing after many years. I am a beginner but I want a good quality cue to grow into. I've been doing a lot of research and the name 'pechauer' keeps coming up. I'm currently playing with an old stealth cue I had from the 90's when I used to play and I would like to upgrade to something better. If you have other suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. My budget is $300 including case.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.
I know that the ideal thing would be to demo different cues and make a decision based on what I like best but I live in south texas and there is only one shop that sells cues here (which does not include pechauer) and you are not allowed to hit with them. Actually I couldn't even if I wanted to because it is a pawn shop and their tables are in another warehouse :(
 
Maybe if you can describe the hit that you like, weight, and/or any other details then maybe we could try to help with a suggestion... At $300 there are a lot of custom cues that you can choose from...

Pechauer makes some great cues. I do not believe there is a difference between the Pro and the JP series other than the Pro series he signs the cue. I have one of his early plain jane cues that was given to me by a close friend and it hits awesome! Solid hit, very good player. Not too stiff, but very confident where I know that the cue ball will go where I hit it.

For your price range, there are serveral cue makers here on this forum that could make you a custom cue. I believe if you look on the for sale section, there is LP customs that has a nice Brunswick Tru-balance conversion wrapless that is just beautiful for a classic sneaky pete look. There should be some room on that one for a case.
 
Im a big fan of Pechauer cues, even though I dont own one at the moment, lol. I like the hit and playability of them. They are way under-rated if you ask me. I have to agree with mamono that you can get a good used custom thats in your price range, but if you dont know what kind of hit you are looking for, its hard to say what to buy. On the other hand, if you dont know yet, you could always buy a cue and use it for a while, and if you find its too stiff, or too soft, then you can sell it on here and replace it accordingly. I hope you are happy with whatever you decide. Good luck bud!


Joe
 
pmata814 said:
....anyone know the difference? Is there a difference in playability between the Pro and JP series of pechauer cues?

I've just purchased a table and I am getting back into playing after many years. I am a beginner but I want a good quality cue to grow into. I've been doing a lot of research and the name 'pechauer' keeps coming up. I'm currently playing with an old stealth cue I had from the 90's when I used to play and I would like to upgrade to something better. If you have other suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. My budget is $300 including case.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.
I know that the ideal thing would be to demo different cues and make a decision based on what I like best but I live in south texas and there is only one shop that sells cues here (which does not include pechauer) and you are not allowed to hit with them. Actually I couldn't even if I wanted to because it is a pawn shop and their tables are in another warehouse :(
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Get a mezz..........
 
First of all, thank you for your replies.

As far as what kind of feel i'm looking for I don't have the slightest idea. The only cue I've hit with is my stealth cue and I'm pretty sure that any cue I purchase with my budget will be an improvement. The only thing I can say is that my stealth is 21 oz and I feel it is too heavy. I think I'd like something around 19 oz.

I also would like something that would aid with applying draw on the cue ball (or english in general) But would this have more to do with the thickness of the shaft? I was thinking of just going with the standard 13mm. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks again.
 
Pechauer

I recently retired my Showcase Hustler Cue after 25 years. I replaced it with a Pechauer Pro 04. Paid about $300.00 for it. Standard Shaft. Hits Good. Solid. Dependable Players Cue. Made in Wisconsin,U.S.A.
P.S. You will be able to draw well with the standard shaft,13mm.
 
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pmata814 said:
....anyone know the difference? Is there a difference in playability between the Pro and JP series of pechauer cues?

I've just purchased a table and I am getting back into playing after many years. I am a beginner but I want a good quality cue to grow into. I've been doing a lot of research and the name 'pechauer' keeps coming up. I'm currently playing with an old stealth cue I had from the 90's when I used to play and I would like to upgrade to something better. If you have other suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. My budget is $300 including case.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.
I know that the ideal thing would be to demo different cues and make a decision based on what I like best but I live in south texas and there is only one shop that sells cues here (which does not include pechauer) and you are not allowed to hit with them. Actually I couldn't even if I wanted to because it is a pawn shop and their tables are in another warehouse :(
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The biggest difference between the two models is the joint. The JP series has a flat faced joint and the Pro is a piloted joint. They both use variations of his Pechauer speed joint so sometimes obtaining non-Pechauer shafts can be harder that picking up a shaft for a cue with one of the standard pins. They definitely hit different. Me personally, I think the JP series has a more solid hit and gives better feedback.
I'm not sure but I think there may also be a different taper in the shafts as well. Don't quote me on that though.

Hope that helps.
 
hbend said:
The biggest difference between the two models is the joint. The JP series has a flat faced joint and the Pro is a piloted joint.....
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This is correct. In case anyone is interested, I called and spoke to someone there and they confirmed the only difference is the joint. I was told the Pro series would have a firmer feel to it and it was only a matter of taste as to which I would like better and that there was no difference in playablity... the higher priced cues I would be paying for the look of the cue.

I've decided to go with the JP-USA. It is their most inexpensive cue and I found a store on Ebay that has them for $154! :smile:

Thank you all for your very helpful replies.

P.S.
I was very impressed with how helpful and patient he was with all my questions.
 
pmata814 said:
....anyone know the difference? Is there a difference in playability between the Pro and JP series of pechauer cues?

I've just purchased a table and I am getting back into playing after many years. I am a beginner but I want a good quality cue to grow into. I've been doing a lot of research and the name 'pechauer' keeps coming up. I'm currently playing with an old stealth cue I had from the 90's when I used to play and I would like to upgrade to something better. If you have other suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. My budget is $300 including case.

Thanks in advance.

P.S.
I know that the ideal thing would be to demo different cues and make a decision based on what I like best but I live in south texas and there is only one shop that sells cues here (which does not include pechauer) and you are not allowed to hit with them. Actually I couldn't even if I wanted to because it is a pawn shop and their tables are in another warehouse :(
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If you've checked around enough, you probably heard that the best-most consistent -production cue made today is a Schon. I wholeheartedly agree.
 
Yes, the difference does lie in the joint. However, when choosing, consider the fact that the 'quick release' is one of the absolute worst designs ever from a structural stability reference. It does not allow the shock wave to transfer as smoothly through the cue as other methods do. Hit (if possible ) with current cues of BOTH types to see if you are can feel the difference. Some players cannot.
 
bobsbilliards said:
If you've checked around enough, you probably heard that the best-most consistent -production cue made today is a Schon. I wholeheartedly agree.
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Yes. But the cheapest Schon I could find is $476 (cheapcues.com) and that's out of my price range. I figured I'd start with a Pechauer (close second to Schon according to my research) and upgrade in the future when I can afford it.
 
bobsbilliards said:
Hit (if possible ) with current cues of BOTH types to see if you are can feel the difference. Some players cannot.
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Unfortunately there is no place for me to demo cues here. There is only one shop here that sells cues (and they don't carry pechauer) and it's a pawn shop. They don't have a playtable to try them.

If I wanted to try before I buy I'd have to drive 300 miles to San Antonio. So I just have to do a lot of reading and make my decision based on that. :confused:
 
Considering the fact that you can't try out different cues and have to buy one on the blind I would do my best to find a good used Schon. That is what i would do if it was me. I live in a big city so i don't have that problem. Schons are honest cues and by that i mean all of them will play jam up.
 
pmata814 said:
I've decided to go with the JP-USA. It is their most inexpensive cue and I found a store on Ebay that has them for $154! :smile:
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I think you'll be very happy. When you grow out of it you can always use it as a bar banger or donate to a young kid that's just starting to learn.
 
Good Idea

hbend said:
I think you'll be very happy. When you grow out of it you can always use it as a bar banger or donate to a young kid that's just starting to learn.
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That is a great suggestion. BTW,mine is flat faced,so it's a JP,not a Pro. Now that a decision is made,we can only wish him Good Shooting!
 
I have multiple Pechauers and am VERY happy with them. I only have the Pro Series jointed cues but have played with the JP Series as well.

I do prefer the hit of the Pro Series cues and on top of that, being a multiple Pechauer owner I've stayed away from the JP's so I could alternate shafts if I want.

I originally bought a Predator Z2 to later find out I like the stock 12.25mm shaft so much better. I even feel like I get more action out of it. I think you will be very pleased with a Pechauer. My friends always pick up mine, hit a few balls and admire how well it hits.
 
I just wanted to thank everyone who posted for sharing their thoughts and suggestions. I just purchased a Pechauer JC 01 from Seyberts.com.

I know I originally had said I was going to get the JP-USA on ebay but I also wanted a case and with the seybert bucks I was able to get them both for $235. I know I spent a little more but I got a more current (and nicer) cue and a nice 2x2 hard tube case. I can't wait to hit with it :)
 
Pro Series Pechauers have a solid ring at the joint, JP's have a staggered ring. Pro Series have a signature and are inspected, the JP's are not and have a JP on the butt piece. The Pro Series all use top quality materials, the JP's do not. The Pro Series is a Corvette, the JP is a Camaro, that might make it easier to understand. The pro series cues keep their value, are collectible in many cases, and are far better than the cheaper JP's. The JP's would be a Viking equivalent. The pro series are a custom builder equivalent. Huge difference. If you cannot afford a PS then the JP will do, but I would save for a PS. They carry a lifetime warrantly against warping and are personally inspected. Rob, big Pech fan.
 
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