DM & HAL, SHORTY & MIKE

AzHousePro said:
As I have stated before, I do not have the time or inclination to read each and every post on the forums.
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As for my objectivity being in question, that is your call. It doesn't have a lot of weight, but it is still your call.

Mike

I would like to believe that reading the posts in question in any given controversy is a prerequisite for making objective decisions about members ... but then of course the second sentence quoted above kicks in ;) The only thing that carrys any weight is the popularity of the site, which seems to be fine at this point, although pool related posts are down imo. It will be interesting to see how the next few months shake out ... even though I am not a cue-trader I'll be sure to follow the buy-sell area where this latest blow-up originated.
 
DaveK said:
I would like to believe that reading the posts in question in any given controversy is a prerequisite for making objective decisions about members ... but then of course the second sentence quoted above kicks in ;) The only thing that carrys any weight is the popularity of the site, which seems to be fine at this point, although pool related posts are down imo. It will be interesting to see how the next few months shake out ... even though I am not a cue-trader I'll be sure to follow the buy-sell area where this latest blow-up originated.
These repeated blow ups in the Wanted/For Sale section are becoming a regular occurance. I too am interested in seeing how this shakes out being that I am only interested in finding products or looking at someone else's gems.

Thanks!
 
Roll-Off said:
Drivermaker was like a big pile of dog $shit on the living room carpet. It had to be cleaned up sooner or later.

Mike,

I'm really curious about your posting standards...Why doesn't an (repeated) obvious personal attack like this lead to a banning? Am I missing something?

Jeff Livingston
 
iconcue said:
oh! i just figured you meant partner since you only mentioned 2 of many sponsors!
Nice avatar jeff. She is definately in my all time top 5. A few more of Ms. lima for your/anyones enjoyment. (No scathing PM's from a certain female from georgia...there is no nudity in these) And my apoligies for the brief hijack.


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AzHousePro said:
When someone knows all of the facts involved in a decision, then they can pass judgement on it.

Hal was TEMPORARILY banned after I asked him twice to call a truce with Shorty. I looked over the jabs between Hal and Shorty and in my opinion, they were both in the wrong. So I asked them both for a truce. (So that I wouldn't have to ban anyone and have this whole thing erupt) Shorty accepted my request, while Hal ignored the request and then went on to continue bashing Shorty and the price he was asking for something. Another note went to Hal saying that a truce had to be called betwen he and Shorty. That request was answered with a public message from Hal on the site saying how he was wronged. No reply to me however. So, he received a TEMPORARY ban. Funny that I received an email from Hal almost immediately after he was banned. Had he sent an email after one of the two PMs I sent him, then we would only be discussing DM right now.

No one asked me if Hal was banned for good. They just assumed that he was and ran with that wrong bit of information. He received a one week ban just like DM got a month or so ago.

DM is a completely different story. I don't care whether he was egged on or not. If he has that little control over his emotions, then this is not the place for him. He has been asked over and over to back off with the vulgarities and attacks on other users. These requests have not just come from me. They have also come from others on the forums. He ignored each and every request and continued to basically do as he pleased whenever he pleased. He finally did it one too many times and got the ban that he deserved.

I see many people claiming that there is some special group of users that are protected. There are no such users. When ANY user does something that I think is out of line, they will get a note saying so. Usually I get a "OK, I will back off. I am sorry" reply. (Shorty, Marissa, etc) Sometimes I get no reply so another PM goes out. Sometimes I get a "You are an idiot and I just can't control myself. That is the way I am. Deal with it" reply. So, I dealt with it.

I find it interesting how everyone seems to know best how to run a site like this. I signed on to run a billiards website. Not babysit a bunch of so called adults who want to turn this into grade school recess. I have said it before and I will say it again. Attitude like what I have seen from DM has killed other sites and I will not let that happen here. This is "the premier message board for the pool community" and I intend for it to stay that way.

If someone wants to start up another forum where anyone can do whatever they want, then more power to them. I with them luck as they will need it.

As for emailing my sponsors, it isn't too hard to find their email addresses. I am sure people like Kevin Trudeau and Matchroom Sport will be very interested in knowing that Drivermaker was banned from here. I am sure I will have a long talk with each them where they ask me my reasoning and slap my wrists.

Mike
Mike,
Most seem to think you are too strick. On our International Cuemakers Association Private Members Forum, we would take posting privilegdes away for less that 1/10th of what you normally put up with. I really think some are on here just for the excitement of stirring stuff up, instead of having beneficial dialogue. I have noticed that as DM and a few others have kept slamming people with profanity and insults, that others that used to only have kind insightful words to say have also started acting like jerks. I think so much negativism is contagious and best left quarantined. I for one give you a cyber hug and a big pat on the back for trying to clean it up a little.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
rolloff made it a moot point when he decided to leave.

Mike

chefjeff said:
Mike,

I'm really curious about your posting standards...Why doesn't an (repeated) obvious personal attack like this lead to a banning? Am I missing something?

Jeff Livingston
 
cueman said:
Mike,
Most seem to think you are too strick.

Or is he a dick? That probably won't stick. DM acted like a pr!ck. Hal made him sick. Shorty's head is too thick. And where is Rick? Roll-Off is a hick. Rude Dog almost gave him a kick. Dogs like to lick. My dog has a tick! Light that wick! Someone hit me with a brick! QUICK QUICK QUICK! Show me a trick. Oil is slick. Cockroaches are ICK!

I'm out of here. I need to find my Bic.
 
Hey there Ali G. Proof positive that you should not be up after 1am.

Mike

Jimmy M. said:
Or is he a dick? That probably won't stick. DM acted like a pr!ck. Hal made him sick. Shorty's head is too thick. And where is Rick? Roll-Off is a hick. Rude Dog almost gave him a kick. Dogs like to lick. My dog has a tick! Light that wick! Someone hit me with a brick! QUICK QUICK QUICK! Show me a trick. Oil is slick. Cockroaches are ICK!

I'm out of here. I need to find my Bic.
 
Jimmy M. said:
Or is he a dick? That probably won't stick. DM acted like a pr!ck. Hal made him sick. Shorty's head is too thick. And where is Rick? Roll-Off is a hick. Rude Dog almost gave him a kick. Dogs like to lick. My dog has a tick! Light that wick! Someone hit me with a brick! QUICK QUICK QUICK! Show me a trick. Oil is slick. Cockroaches are ICK!

I'm out of here. I need to find my Bic.


Go watch a flick, have a beer with a Mick, maybe something will click. In the morning, which razor will you pick? Hopefully the one that won't give you a nick, probably the Schick.
 
AzHousePro said:
rolloff made it a moot point when he decided to leave.

Mike


Well, it doesn't make the standard a moot point, just Roll Off in particular, but thank you for responding. I hadn't read your long post as to "why" when I asked the above.

Keep up the hard work,

Jeff Livingston
 
Mike, I Would Appreciate Knowing Why The Furor About Me Or Shorty. Shorty Kept Ragging ''sonia" To A Pool Match. I Agreed To Meet Him At A Pool Room In The Bay Area. I Told Him To Ask At The Counter For Hal Houle. He Never Showed Up When He Learned That His Match Would Not Be With Sonia, But It Would Be With Me. And He Could Play For As Much Money As He Could Afford. He Was A No Show.

What Else Am I In Trouble For. No One Apparently Has The Temerity To Face Me And Read Out The Litany Of Offences I Am Supposed To Be Involved In.

And What Has Dm Got To Do With All This?. I Taught Dm How To Play, And Dm Would Teach His Girl Friend Timberly.

???????


Mike, Call Me At 510 581 3010, And I Will Call You Right Back.
 
sonia said:
And What Has Dm Got To Do With All This?. I Taught Dm How To Play, And Dm Would Teach His Girl Friend Timberly.
LMFAO! I luv DM but one of us would end up shooting the other. :D
 
Jerry OC said:
They are posting away at http://www.socalpooltalk.com. It is a bashfest over there. :confused:
That used to be a decent place to post.... Hal Houle, DM, ccn7, Hal (our hal) Koop, Scott, Rude Dog, and quite a few others were over there. Then certain people who will remain nameless started posting over there and it went to sh!t. FWIW, I'm not talking about FL... he came onto the scene over there after it had already gone down hill. ;)
 
Jimmy M. said:
Or is he a dick? That probably won't stick. DM acted like a pr!ck. Hal made him sick. Shorty's head is too thick. And where is Rick? Roll-Off is a hick. Rude Dog almost gave him a kick. Dogs like to lick. My dog has a tick! Light that wick! Someone hit me with a brick! QUICK QUICK QUICK! Show me a trick. Oil is slick. Cockroaches are ICK!

I'm out of here. I need to find my Bic.

LOL:D too funny Jimmy.

OK,here goes:

Howerton's in command, took his stand
His punishment planned
Posts were scanned, some weren’t bland
Over time spanned
So DM was banned and Shorty canned
And Hal out of hand, stuck in sand
Hanging on by a strand, in remand
His punishment grand, by the flames he fanned
Notoriously tanned, by Shorty’s tear gland
Favoring Trudeau's brand, in demand, making his grand
In AZ land, sponsors won’t disband, may even expand
Now were undermanned, but we’ll withstand, his whip hand
Or crash land, like Fast Larry’s rock band.

RJ
 
Timberly said:
That used to be a decent place to post.... Hal Houle, DM, ccn7, Hal (our hal) Koop, Scott, Rude Dog, and quite a few others were over there. Then certain people who will remain nameless started posting over there and it went to sh!t. FWIW, I'm not talking about FL... he came onto the scene over there after it had already gone down hill. ;)
I post there occaisonally, but I'm not a big fan of the place.
 
What I have noticed ....

that both on RSB and SoCal is that serious Pool threads do not get much
discussion at all, and that most threads are wasted in trying to slam one
person or another. And on SoCal, they do it from behind the guest mask,
obviously because they are afraid of repercussions from other members
(most of which are known by their true identities).

They, in some respects, are trying to show their 'true' opinions about someone or something, and in some cases, all they accomplish is to show
their immaturity and childishness, under the guise of attempted humor.

I know it isn't possible on RSB, but IF I WAS THE ADMINISTRATOR ON SOCAL, I would put measures in place that would require one username
per real identity, and I WOULD NOT LET guest usernames to post, only
view. THEN, it might start to resembloe A REAL POOL FORUM INSTEAD
OF A WASTE LAND OF NONSENSE.
 
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