Do carbon fiber cue shafts make custom cues obsolete?

RafaReyes said:
It's like asking a tennis player to choose between a fancy tennis racket or one that actually helps your game.

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Not really a good comparison. They don't really make rackets just for looks. Different sizes etc. but they don't make custom 'show-off' rackets. Now golf DOES have 'show-off' clubs. Some hi-end Japanese models will run you 20grand for a full set. Gold plating, inlays, all kinds of shit that is there just to show your buddies how much yen you got in the bank. https://peachfrog.com/products/honm...skx8Qt3mMGGNXlQ3K2ex6SzSjhKCIiehoCza4QAvD_BwE
 
dr_dave said:
CF shafts offer advantages. That's why they have become so popular.



If you care about how a cue looks, the butt matters a lot. If you only care about CB deflection performance, it doesn't. See:

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I would venture to say it's all relative. Sure, there are some players who understand the difference but, even fewer who can maximize on that difference. We're on a forum with a few thousand (maybe) players so in this space the number of people who both understand and can maximize the difference is much higher than in real life. Go to a large APA tournament and ask people why they bought their CF shaft, I'd be interested to know how many say because it looks cool. In my minimal league experience (3 years APA - 1 session BCA), there are WAY more bangers who have zero idea of the intricacies of how a cue (LD in this case) affects play.

Simply pointing out that they have become popular because they look cool, not necessarily because it helps their game. Marketing.
 
shooter_Hans said:
A ball can be spinning a million different ways while going forward with LD shafts. Use your imagination with a shot and the LD shafts can make it happen.
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It was wild when I realized I could put both left and right english on draw-stun-follow shots with my Revo.
 
shooter_Hans said:
Put it this way I can tell if someone is using a regular shaft or low deflection by how the ball moves. There are plenty of low deflection wood shafts out there. Low deflection players tend to defy the law of physics with English. It looks unnatural. That’s how good these LD shafts are. A regular shaft moves the ball much more naturally. The ball spins correctly to its path. A ball can be spinning a million different ways while going forward with LD shafts. Use your imagination with a shot and the LD shafts can make it happen.

With the correct tip combination then you can get real creative with shape.

3 most groundbreaking shafts that I’ve played with:

Meucci red dot
Predator 314 no logo
Ignite carbon

Currently I’m on a WX sigma 12.5
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Wow. What a load of malarky. where do you get this shit??
 
No, it doesn’t. Did the CF shaft, glove and $20 chalk make your crippled game obsolete?
 
Heard the next BIG thing in pool will be chalk made for righties and lefties. Seems that cutting-edge research has shown that you should only use chalk custom tuned for use by the hand you chalk with. Price will be around $50bux. Get in line now. ;)
 
You do know CF shafts have less deflection right? This isn't some voodoo black magic. This is proven.
Therefore, from those who learned how to play pool with deflection, this was a game changer. If you're a beginning player then it may not improve your game if you're starting out with it. There won't be a learning curve but learning how to play pool.

It doesn't make custom cues obsolete. Shafts? Perhaps.

A lot of you guys remind me of this....... the good thing is you guys adopted the computer and we can all chat and use the internet. It beats playing with a calculator. ROFL

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shooter_Hans said:
You do know CF shafts have less deflection right? This isn't some voodoo black magic. This is proven.
Therefore, from those who learned how to play pool with deflection, this was a game changer. If you're a beginning player then it may not improve your game if you're starting out with it. There won't be a learning curve but learning how to play pool.

A lot of you guys remind me of this.......

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Not all CF shafts are low-deflection. Lo-defl. is the result of lowering front-end mass. This can be done with wood or cf. Some cf shafts made for 3c have same deflect. as old-school wood. Its not so much the material as its implementation.
 
Ascue said:
Was reading a fb page for selling scruggs cues. Minimum of 2000 for a sneaky on up to 5000 or more for fancy.the hit of a scruggs is simply like no other they say
Now I have a nice sneaky by Jerry Powers. Jerico. Good cue , no complaints at all. How is a scruggs better than that powers cue?
What about the carbon fiber shafts? Many say the butt doesn't even matter. I do know the prices on custom cues is getting ridiculous.
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I've owned several Scruggs over the years. High end ebony with ivory boxes.....another 4 pointer with inlays I bought from Tim at his shop (nice memory)..and may sneakies.

You're comparing apples and oranges. You're comparing "price" and inferring that the higher price makes it a better player than your Powers. That isn't the case. Hit and playability is subjective. Always. I think you can buy some cues now for $150 that play fantastic with a little tuning.

Price for anything is driven by supply and demand. Timmy's cues are legendary and always will be. They have a high demand with finite supply. The demand and price continue to elevate over the years due to these factors. I've played with some of his cues I thought played like hot garbage and some that were the best hitting cues ever. Again...SUBJECTIVE. But they were all gorgeous.
 
Matt_24 said:
I've owned several Scruggs over the years. High end ebony with ivory boxes.....another 4 pointer with inlays I bought from Tim at his shop (nice memory)..and may sneakies.

You're comparing apples and oranges. You're comparing "price" and inferring that the higher price makes it a better player than your Powers. That isn't the case. Hit and playability is subjective. Always. I think you can buy some cues now for $150 that play fantastic with a little tuning.

Price for anything is driven by supply and demand. Timmy's cues are legendary and always will be. They have a high demand with finite supply. The demand and price continue to elevate over the years due to these factors. I've played with some of his cues I thought played like hot garbage and some that were the best hitting cues ever. Again...SUBJECTIVE. But they were all gorgeous.
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