...just the kind of stuff the marketing gurus at Predator don't want to hear :grin-square:
if i recall it correctly, that TAR podcast with johnny archer, Django uses deflection and then shoots the object ball a little thick. he said that if he shot the object ball on it's true angle (going to the pocket) then he would probably miss. on that same podcast, JA also said "i like deflection."
And this is how this argument always goes in my home pool hall. There is a rift now between the old "good" equipment and the modern LD stuff. For me, there's no comparison. Modern Predators and OBs are better in every way than the old solid maple shafts...ivory ferrule or not. Invest 2 weeks to get used to it, and you never go back.
I know that many pros use the equipment they use because of sponsorships, but I know first-hand that they prefer the playability of the modern stuff. It's ruined my old dream of getting an old Scruggs or Joss West as a playing cue, because now any cue with a Predator shaft plays better!
Clearly you have not tried good quality custom butt with LD shaft (which has to be propert tapered, not standard horrible taper with now feel)
Try it and you will never go back to your predator, it is fire wood
My friend, let me assure you Mosconi or any of the other past pool greats did have options on shaft diameters and ferrule types- but ALL technology aside- both past and present - a great pool stroke is a great pool stroke, it has nothing to do with "genius".As I understand they did not have many options bank in the day when Mosconi was playing, and he was a genius
I am talking about our time with all new technologies available
Me and my friend who is also here on az had discussion the other night about high deflection shafts and especially heavy ivory ferrules that deflect like crazy.
I personally cannot make a ball with fat high deflection shafts eventhough I like the feel of them. I started from snooker so all my shafts are thin and either LD or just around 12 mm to deflect less.
I had 12.3 mm old growth mottey shaft and actually could play with it(regret selling it now)
My question is, who plays with ivory from top players. I know pretty much all of them have contracts and play with LD shafts.
Is it because of contracts or they too cannot play well with high deflection shafts?
True, However,The tips are so tiny on snooker cues that by the time you have a tenon large enough not to snap off, there isn't much room to add a ferule. Anything you put on will have a very thin wall. Ivory split too easily. Brass was a very good alternative choice. In such a small amount it does not weigh much at all, they are very thin and very short and now, very durable. Heck on those shafts a tiny bit of weight may be a blessing.All 4 remaining players in the Snookers Masters will be using a brass ferrule. On Sunday, one will walk away with the equivalent of 300 thousand dollars. Runner up a third of that.
None of the 132 rankling tour players use an ivory ferrule. Some Snooker pros once used ivory instead of brass but I haven’t known any to use ivory for half a century.
The advice of almost every top pro...stick with your cue. Former World Champion Shaun Murphy: I minute clip.
Its actually the weight. The lighter the better. https://www.dzcues.com/ferrules_4.html Iv.4 is relatively heavy and will deflect more than just about anything else.Interesting old thread here. Of cues I've owned, the highest deflecting had an Ivorine 4 ferrule. Have owned ivory and don't think they deflect much more than other 1 inch ferrules (assuming the shaft isn't bored out). I've found it's more about ferrule length in cues I've used.
I had seen that DZ study too and validated my experience with Ivorine 4. It also attracted chalk easily, so I wasn't a fan of that material.
Thanks for posting that link I never had seen it. That is good.