Do You Break With Your Player?

Do You Break With Your Player?

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hang-the-9 said:
While I am not worried about damaging my actual cue with breaking, I want my tips to be setup for playing not breaking. I use a house cue or my break cue, depending on how lazy I am :smile: most of the time. No need to have a tip pop off or get out of shape when you don't need to. Same reason I don't smoke and drive with a seatbelt, why take extra chances when it takes almost no effort to be safer?
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I am thinking that a break shot, as long as you are not killing it, is hit no harder than you would hit the CB if you were playing 9 ball and were hitting a force follow that you intend to go 3 rails. I have never had a tip pop off, ever, while playing. I could be wrong, but is not the same glue applied to a a break tip as a regular tip?
 
I cut break with my playing cue.
...that hit ain’t much different than any normal power hit.

Head ball...dead ball, I use a break cue with a hard leather tip.
 
philly said:
I am thinking that a break shot, as long as you are not killing it, is hit no harder than you would hit the CB if you were playing 9 ball and were hitting a force follow that you intend to go 3 rails. I have never had a tip pop off, ever, while playing. I could be wrong, but is not the same glue applied to a a break tip as a regular tip?
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Yes there are some shots in pool you hit as hard as a break shot, or close to it, but since you are certain you are going to hit it hard on the break, why take the chance? It's just too easy to grab another cue to break with not to.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Yes there are some shots in pool you hit as hard as a break shot, or close to it, but since you are certain you are going to hit it hard on the break, why take the chance? It's just too easy to grab another cue to break with not to.
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That's my point. I don't hit the rack harder when using my player than I would with a strong force follow shot. I get better CB control, scratch less often on the break because I can control the CB better, and the balls spread just as nicely as with a hard break. For me it's about control of the table.
 
Not for anything but 1P and 14.1. In addition to putting stress on a cue not designed for it, you're going to have the wrong tip on the cue. Plus you're going to mess up the shape of your softer tip.
 
jasonlaus said:
I have had a break cue the last few years, but always broke(very hard) with my player before that, Ivory ferrule and all.

Might be in your neighborhood for a few days soon.
Jason
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Text me. No, er, uh, medical procedures on the horizon.
 
Everyone told me that I shouldnt be breaking with an LD shaft. I called McDermott and they told me that their break cues came with G-Core shafts and that breaking with my cue would not hurt it. I hate soft tips so mushrooming is not an issue. I play mostly 8 ball, I break as hard as I can while keeping cue ball middle table, thats about 21-23 MPH with my Radar for me, Im kind of a wuss I guess. I have noticed its not how hard you hit the rack, its more of a how nice and square you hit the rack that really makes a difference. if you scratch in the side you aint hitting the rack square.
 
TR_Frank said:
Not for anything but 1P and 14.1. In addition to putting stress on a cue not designed for it, you're going to have the wrong tip on the cue. Plus you're going to mess up the shape of your softer tip.
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Agree with this. Also my player has a smaller than average diameter for a pool cue and a fairly curved radius on the tip. Neither of those things feel good for me when breaking 9, 8, or 10 ball.
 
philly said:
Ah. You like to smash the rack. Do you have any trouble controlling the cue ball? I hate giving up control of the table after breaking even if it's to play a safe. Much easier, for me anyway, to squat the CB with a softer break.
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Very little control.
the cue ball fly's around.
 
I do not....but I did. Everything seems fine until the ferrule cracks one day. Your Player...would definitely not break hard with it. However you're having fun and enjoying it. That being the case use it.
 
measureman said:
Lets see....
Break hard with $1000 cue?
Break hard with a $125 break cue?
Tough choice here.
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Tap tap tap

When I started playing (79/80), most players I grew up around broke off the wall. So thats what we did. As I got older, the trend was to have a cheap cue with a hard tip on it. Then sometime in the 1990s, I started seeing "break cues".

As time moved on, break cues became what they are now. I currently break with a $100 players jump/break cue that I had the original tip and ferrule replaced with a one piece phenolic tip. My breaker is 14mm at the tip, with a short thick taper that transfers energy into the cb well.

To me, its about using the right tool for the job so to speak. :grin:
 
Chuck Fields said:
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When I started playing (79/80), most players I grew up around broke off the wall. So thats what we did. As I got older, the trend was to have a cheap cue with a hard tip on it. Then sometime in the 1990s, I started seeing "break cues".

As time moved on, break cues became what they are now. I currently break with a $100 players jump/break cue that I had the original tip and ferrule replaced with a one piece phenolic tip. My breaker is 14mm at the tip, with a short thick taper that transfers energy into the cb well.

To me, its about using the right tool for the job so to speak. :grin:
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Ah. Marketing in the pool equipment industry has been elevated to a fine art. JMTC
 
Chuck Fields said:
Tap tap tap

When I started playing (79/80), most players I grew up around broke off the wall. So thats what we did. As I got older, the trend was to have a cheap cue with a hard tip on it. Then sometime in the 1990s, I started seeing "break cues".

As time moved on, break cues became what they are now. I currently break with a $100 players jump/break cue that I had the original tip and ferrule replaced with a one piece phenolic tip. My breaker is 14mm at the tip, with a short thick taper that transfers energy into the cb well.

To me, its about using the right tool for the job so to speak. :grin:
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I have the same type of cheap break/jumps (both Players and J&J) but did the opposite of what you did, I replaced the phenolic tips with a hard leather one. I do not like the feel and "slide" of the phenolic, plus I do not want to damage someone's cueball if the tip happens to be able to crack it. I am seeing way too many cueballs with little half moon cracks.
 
Sometimes.... as I use a med hard tip and a laminated shaft on all my cues it really does not matter.
If I'm making shots with it after I break, it stays in my hand, if not I reach for the cue with the OB shaft to play with. It's kind of a fickle thing with me.
But more 9 ball than 8
 
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