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Can we not just agree that any inappropriate reaction to CB/OB contact is simply a kick...?

I never heard of any of these other terms until I took up pool.
 
Can we not just agree that any inappropriate reaction to CB/OB contact is simply a kick...?

I never heard of any of these other terms until I took up pool.
To me a CIT is expected . A skid has some bobble in it and is almost always caused by chalk in one of the balls .
 
Can we not just agree that any inappropriate reaction to CB/OB contact is simply a kick...?
The only inappropriate reaction between CB and OB that I know of is extra throw caused by extra friction at the point of contact. That's also the definition of kick/skid/cling that I've heard the most.

I think calling other inappropriate reactions, like between a ball and debris, the same thing would be unnecessarily confusing.

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Can we not just agree that any inappropriate reaction to CB/OB contact is simply a kick...?

I never heard of any of these other terms until I took up pool.
I think the best term for the phenomenon is "bad contact".

The problem with "kick" is that it means something else in pool. A kick shot at pool has nothing to do with a bad ball-ball contact.
 
I think the best term for the phenomenon is "bad contact".

The problem with "kick" is that it means something else in pool. A kick shot at pool has nothing to do with a bad ball-ball contact.
That's only because they used the wrong term from the get go....lol ;)
 
Maybe if the ball is already rolling, rolloff fits.
If an object ball, at rest, ends up skidding instead of rolling because of having to overcome an impediment when initiating forward movement, that’s a skid.
Both a skid and cling occur upon contact.

To me that would be a deviation in initial rolling direction, caused by debris or cloth/slate condition. The ob wouldn't necessarily have to slide or skid before rolling.

With a skid, the ob is pushed and it slides or scoots off the intended line of travel before it begins to roll. That's the difference.
 
Please . That's not a jewel of an information .
Shoot the money ball and be aware of the tangent line .

Most of the pros draw the cue ball when shooting the money ball .
It's easier to see the hit when the tip is on the felt and draw minimizes the skid .

You are the one with a foul attitude . Complete with made up LIES.
You'll soon get your chance to display your prowess with a pool stick in the recent spot shot challenge match you proposed toward me, Mr. Joey.
Since I am just a self-admitted coward, a liar, and a "no-show" king,...and since I don't play worth a flip either, I won't call your bet. BUT, my man John Barton has already done so, in here somewhere.
And just think, if he lets me in on the deal, I'll get a piece of his action and you can have a beautiful chance at some of my crummy old money. That will be glorious for you! If you win, you can probably get a year of posting in here about how you beat the Old Low out of some dough.
Now, it's time for YOU to show up and perform accordingly.
Isn't democracy wonderful? 😇
 
You'll soon get your chance to display your prowess with a pool stick in the recent spot shot challenge match you proposed toward me, Mr. Joey.
Since I am just a self-admitted coward, a liar, and a "no-show" king,...and since I don't play worth a flip either, I won't call your bet. BUT, my man John Barton has already done so, in here somewhere.
And just think, if he lets me in on the deal, I'll get a piece of his action and you can have a beautiful chance at some of my crummy old money. That will be glorious for you! If you win, you can probably get a year of posting in here about how you beat the Old Low out of some dough.
Now, it's time for YOU to show up and perform accordingly.
Isn't democracy wonderful? 😇
Oh great . Pass it on.
John is your man. Great. I'll make Austin my man then since they're both going be in Las Vegas .
They can play even for as much money as you wanna bet . They already played a few sets .
Austin doesn't know nothing about any aiming system . He jumps on almost all shots.
Should be easy picking .
When are YOU going to show up to YOUR own made-up challenges ?
 
Oh great . Pass it on.
John is your man. Great. I'll make Austin my man then since they're both going be in Las Vegas .
They can play even for as much money as you wanna bet . They already played a few sets .
Austin doesn't know nothing about any aiming system . He jumps on almost all shots.
Should be easy picking .
When are YOU going to show up to YOUR own made-up challenges ?
You still have reading comprehension difficulties.
I will NEVER show up to play anybody because I do not play good at all.....I have no problem admitting that.
What annoys me about pool shooters like you, Mr. Joey, is you don't play good and WON'T admit it.
The spot shot contest will between YOU and John......(Austin (whoever that is) or whomever else you stir up have ZERO to do with any of this so do not try one of your lame deflections or "weasel out of it" techniques.
That's another reason I like one-on-one matches to be all alone...just the 2 players in a room somewhere. Not even the backers get admitted. So "weasels" won't have all their pool room bum friends around to try and get in on things, stir something up, deflect or run their jaws. (no wonder the general population of this country despises pool rooms and the loafers who hang out there)
The challenge you issued to me was taken by John...now rise above your circumstances and you play him. OR admit you're just like I am....you can't play a lick. (by the way, since you cannot comprehend, that makes me even with you...I can't play worth a flip either)
 
You still have reading comprehension difficulties.
I will NEVER show up to play anybody because I do not play good at all.....I have no problem admitting that.
What annoys me about pool shooters like you, Mr. Joey, is you don't play good and WON'T admit it.
The spot shot contest will between YOU and John......(Austin (whoever that is) or whomever else you stir up have ZERO to do with any of this so do not try one of your lame deflections or "weasel out of it" techniques.
That's another reason I like one-on-one matches to be all alone...just the 2 players in a room somewhere. Not even the backers get admitted. So "weasels" won't have all their pool room bum friends around to try and get in on things, stir something up, deflect or run their jaws. (no wonder the general population of this country despises pool rooms and the loafers who hang out there)
The challenge you issued to me was taken by John...now rise above your circumstances and you play him. OR admit you're just like I am....you can't play a lick. (by the way, since you cannot comprehend, that makes me even with you...I can't play worth a flip either)
Err, I told YOU I was just a C player like you. So , we could play after YOUR CHALLENGE.
Then you weaseled .
And JB HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY CHALLENGE TO you either. DUH!
AND I already said I'd play him $500 a set. 2 sets guaranteed . I'd have to drive to Vegas and practice on those Diamond tables at Griffs because I've never played on one .

YOU, just keep yapping . And have flipflopped on the TOI topic .
And as a weasel to your own challenges, you have a really thick face to even show up here ever again .
You are jockriding a system YOU CAN'T EVEN use.
And have LIED about some quantum leap in level of play after learning it .
How shameless are you ????
 
Err, I told YOU I was just a C player like you. So , we could play after YOUR CHALLENGE.
Then you weaseled .
And JB HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY CHALLENGE TO you either. DUH!😇
AND I already said I'd play him $500 a set. 2 sets guaranteed . I'd have to drive to Vegas and practice on those Diamond tables at Griffs because I've never played on one .

YOU, just keep yapping . And have flipflopped on the TOI topic .
And as a weasel to your own challenges, you have a really thick face to even show up here ever again .
You are jockriding a system YOU CAN'T EVEN use.
And have LIED about some quantum leap in level of play after learning it .
How shameless are you ????
One more time. TRY hard to comprehend.
1. I am a liar
2. I am a cheater
3. I cannot use CTE or any other method of aiming a pool shot because I am so lame
4. I am a "no show" artist.
5. I never ran a hundred balls in my life....I made it all up. I never ran three balls in my life...I made that all up too.
I never improved at anything concerning pool because I just like to lie and make up stuff.
6. I have no shame
7. I even voted for that horrible monster Trump
THERE....can you read that? I confess to all of it. CAN YOU COMPREHEND what I just typed?
None of that lets you weasel out of the acceptance by John Barton of your spot shot challenge. So lay off the deflection attempts. PUH-Leeeeeeeeeeeeeze.
😇
 
Hold on... Joey challenged Low and he didn't except, but John is willing to accept a challenge not made to him, and Joey is some level of weasel for not extending then challenge made to Low to John...?

So does that mean I can call Low a weasel because I was willing to accept a challenge with John which he only made to Dave...?...o_O
 
Okay...one more time and the LAST time for you also (since you invited yourself into this conversation)
Here's a duplicate of what I typed to Mr. Joey with some more added. TRY to comprehend it and just leave me and my business alone.
One more time. TRY hard to comprehend.
1. I am a liar
2. I am a cheater
3. I cannot use CTE or any other method of aiming a pool shot because I am so lame
4. I am a "no show" artist.
5. I never ran a hundred balls in my life....I made it all up. I never ran three balls in my life...I made that all up too.
I never improved at anything concerning pool because I just like to lie and make up stuff.
6. I have no shame
7. I even voted for that horrible monster Trump
8. I am manic depressive, I am suicidal, I am borderline psychotic.
9. I am fat, old, crippled, half blind, bald headed, ugly, lazy, sexually inadequate, financially improvident, I have athlete's foot, I have kidney disease, I have diabetes, I am a recovering alcoholic, I am a charter member of Codependents Anonymous, I have BPH, I have AFIB, I have false teeth and halitosis, four ex-wives who would love to see me in prison and the neighbor's dog hates me too.
10. I am a horrible excuse for a human being.
(I think that about covers it)
THERE....can you read that? I confess to all of it.
So.....Please, please,please, please, please,please.......just leave me alone and go away.
Thank you.
Open forum there shooter, (or is that "weasel"...lol)... I couldn't care less if I have your invitation to post.
 
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