You don't understand how CTE works, don't care how it works, and don't feel how it works is important. You have said that a number of times, John Barton who has said that dozens of times, and many of the other CTE arguers have said it as well. The problem is that on the one hand you all say you don't understand how CTE works, and then on the other hand you turn right around and argue in the most closed minded and adamant manner possible about every last detail of how it works and doesn't work. You all obviously do care a lot about the mechanism by which it works for you otherwise you wouldn't be so militant in your need to argue how it works even when you admit not knowing. Surely you see how it makes no sense to say you don't understand it on the one hand, and then argue every last detail about it with someone on the other. Surely you see how it makes no sense to say you don't care how it works, and then be absolutely and completely unwilling to even consider the possibility that you might be subconsciously adjusting for an inaccurate system regardless of the evidence.
When it is convenient for the CTE arguers, you admit you don't understand how CTE works. When someone asks questions you don't have answers to, or wants more detail where descriptions of the steps are vague, or wants proof of anything like that it objectively finds the correct aim/shot line or of anything else, the response from your side is all too often "CTE can't be proven to work as claimed and I don't understand how it works and it isn't important how it works and I don't care, all I know is it works for me and that is all that is important". But when someone is showing mathematical proof on paper or through explanation that it does not find the correct shot line, and that CTE users are actually adjusting by feel to make their shots just like with any other system, you and the rest suddenly become experts who fully understand every last detail of the system and will argue vehemently against any possibility of subconscious adjustment.
So which is it? Do you fully understand it or not? Do you care how it works or not? Here is the answer and give this some serious internal soul searching before replying back with the knee jerk argument that every pore of your being will reflexively want to make. You all don't understand how it works, otherwise you would never say you didn't understand if you did. Plus you would be able to answer those tough questions if you did. Of course you don't understand how or why it works and have said so many,many times. You also do care how it works--a lot. A whole lot. Like a WHOLE LOT. But why is that? Because you will feel stupid if you actually have to accept to yourself that you were just subconsciously adjusting for everything the whole time. So your ego makes you have a closed mind about that and makes you need to have to argue against that vehemently, in the hopes that nobody believes you were subconsciously adjusting and will think to themselves "look how dumb those guys were", and so you don't have to accept it yourself and feel like "man how dumb was I to have just been using feel all along and adjusting and never even realizing it". But it shouldn't be something to be embarrassed about or ashamed about or to feel stupid about. We all do things subconsciously that we don't realize, and often, and it's just part of being human. But ego just won't let you guys look at the evidence and the facts without that bias.
The truth of the matter is that you and the rest of the CTE arguers/users don't understand the system, and it isn't important to you how it works as long as it isn't subconscious adjustments you are making that corrected for the system's inaccuracies. Ego is why you can never accept subconscious adjustment and is why you are so compelled to argue that which you admit to not understanding. It is misplaced ego though. Again, not consciously realizing something you are doing subconsciously doesn't make you an idiot, it makes you human, and there is no shame in being human. On the other hand, ignoring facts and evidence because of your ego displays a lack of ability to utilize critical thinking skills, and that level of willful bias is something that actually is shameful though IMO because that is something we have a lot more if not total control over.
This is simply a case of reflexively fighting against something simply because it isn't the way you would want it to be (because you are afraid it will make you look and feel silly) instead of just searching for the truth without bias and with an open mind whether you will hate the answer you arrive at or not. Seriously, do some real soul searching on this and ask yourself honestly why it is so important to you that it doesn't turn out to be subconscious adjustment. If it was really true when you guys all say "who cares how it works as long as it works" then it wouldn't matter to you if the reason was subconscious adjustment, but yet it does matter to you all a lot (it shouldn't, and so the question to ask yourself is why does it, and in that answer lies the cause of your biases).
Nice job of totally taking words out of context, adding some B.S. to make your point.
First off, when we say that we don't know how it works, you are applying that with a very broad brush. And, either are doing it out of a lack of understanding of the subject, or out of a bias of your own to try and prove that subconscious adjustments are made.
We know the steps to using it. And we know how to use it. That is something very few of your side that says it has subconscious adjustments know. What we don't know, is the math that has to lie beneath it all. No one knows that at this time. And, the reason for that has been explained dozens of times on here.
You say that we must be making subconscious adjustments, yet you are not able to use the system yourself, so you have nothing to back up your claim on that. Numerous times, I and others have made posts that prove that there is no subconscious adjustments made. Yet, you dismiss all of that because it does not favor what you want to believe to be the truth.
You erroneously state that we would feel stupid by having to answer the hows of why it works so we avoid it to not look stupid. Actually, if I could explain the math behind it, I would feel extremely brilliant. That is because no one yet has been able to figure out how to put what we see into a math formula. It just can't be done at this time. So, you even making that claim on us shows your bias or lack of understanding on just what the problems with totally explaining how it works even are.
As far as if it has subconscious adjustments to it, it doesn't even matter to me that much. I would use it anyways. I also use 90/90 and that does have some slight subconscious adjustments. But, you see, I know how to use CTE, and have set up tests for myself to see if there were subconscious adjustments to it. I haven't found any yet. What I have found, is that if I do make any subconscious adjustments, it causes a miss, not a make. But then again, I also have stated that numerous times on here. The exception to that being the bank shots. All users have stated that subconscious adjustment is needed whenever banking a ball for numerous reasons.
What I do find odd, is that so many of you that do not and can not use the system with confidence, and many of you can't even make one shot with it, or even come close to describing the steps to using the system, are so quick to claim that you must know exactly how it works and exactly what those using it are actually doing. That is just amazing!
What you fail to realize, is that for you to state that we must be using subconscious, then, by your argument, you must know the system well enough to know just what is needed to use it properly. And, have tested it thoroughly yourself. Yet, we know that you are not well versed in the use of CTE, so you have no basis to make the claims you do about it. But, your bias didn't stop you from making those claims.
So, in summary, do I know why following these steps lines me up to the shot line? No. I'm not a mathematician. But, I do know very well what those steps are, and can follow them to get the results claimed. I also know, that I am not using subconscious to alter my final shot line to then make the ball because the system did not do anything but get me close.
As far as descriptions of the system being vague, they really are not. They are surprisingly accurate. The problem arises when some refuse to actually follow the steps to the letter and keep inserting their own biases into it. We have given detailed descriptions in various ways to accomplish the steps. That some do not, or will not, understand them and take it to the table for more than a few shots is not on us, but on the users. So, for you to say that we have been vague, is just not true at all. In fact, on here, a number of us have said more than we feel comfortable giving out for free on here, yet, in the interest of helping others, the complete system is on here in various places and threads. That's not doing Stan any favors at all.
