Does Busti use the DuckieSystem?
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Yes!.....I also heard he carries around this arrow thing ,in a special gold case.
I think it has a picture of a duck on it with the initials JB right under it.:grin:
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looking at a contact point
whether it is a contact point on the ball or felt, and then adjusts for spin.
whether it is a contact point on the ball or felt, and then adjusts for spin.
At around 49:00 he says he stays low left on warm up strokes to aid in his aiming, very interesting.
I have noticed
I have noticed that before. Maybe it keeps his focus on the cueball/object ball relationship better as the cue is not in the picture.
I have noticed that before. Maybe it keeps his focus on the cueball/object ball relationship better as the cue is not in the picture.
Or he is pivoting from the left CB edge like described in this aiming system here:
http://www.billiardsthegame.com/offset-and-pivot-aiming-systems-395
Why always on the left then ?
Its explained in the link I gave in the post before, did you read it?
Some systems require pivot from both sides of the CB, this one is made so you can pivot only from one side, from the left for right handers since its natural because your bridge hand comes from the left side, its awkward to pivot from the right edge of the CB for a right hander.
Its all written on the link I gave you, but never mind, I wrote it here for you.
Ok.
If he's cutting the ball to the right more than 30*,
wouldn't that left edge be lined up to air?
Nothing on the ob at all?
Cause Busty says always "left to right"
The left edge would be but his focus could be on the right edge lined up to some point on the OB. He could still bring the cue in left to right.
Please read the website on the link I gave you first.
He is not aligning cue to the point on the OB.
You align on the alignment lines that connect CB and OB.
Then just pivot from the left edge of the CB when in full stance, cue is supposed to be angled a little and just the tip pointing to the edge of the CB, its not pointing at anything on the OB, thats what alignment lines are there for (thats why you have three of them in this particular system).
I thought Spidey mentioned that he had a discussion with Bustamante about using some sort of CTE type technique. Having the cue tip left would allow for a pivot to take place, and always coming from the left would work for both left and right pivots, just a different amount for the virtual right pivots. I always assumed there were some common Filipino techniques that were passed around - aiming, adjusting for english, etc. - and the various individuals just implemented them slightly differently. Bustamante's is certainly the most unique. It would certainly be possible to do this with a non-manual pivot as well.
I played with him over 2 days when he was here in Jax a few years ago, it's quite clear he's low left on most shots and redirects his cue on the final stroke to the actual cueball location. Funny to stand next to him and see him cue low left and hit high right so accurately, making use of his bridge length and probably some sort of BHE-type knowledge of his cue and stroke. I didn't know much then about aiming systems so never got to ask him anything specific around that, wish I had...
Scott
I played with him over 2 days when he was here in Jax a few years ago, it's quite clear he's low left on most shots and redirects his cue on the final stroke to the actual cueball location. Funny to stand next to him and see him cue low left and hit high right so accurately, making use of his bridge length and probably some sort of BHE-type knowledge of his cue and stroke. I didn't know much then about aiming systems so never got to ask him anything specific around that, wish I had...
Scott
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Or it's just a habit .
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Here you do not use perceptions, you align directly on one line and then rotate to the other (to remove perception problems).
I do not know how it works, but it does (one direction pivoting), maybe because your cue comes angled towards the CB edge (not in a 90° way).
Here you can see it in action:
http://vimeo.com/31802564
Some banks with this system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMhCKSU22Uc
I do not know how it works, but it does (one direction pivoting), maybe because your cue comes angled towards the CB edge (not in a 90° way).
Here you can see it in action:
http://vimeo.com/31802564
Some banks with this system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMhCKSU22Uc
I did check out the link, but this system makes very little sense to me. I mean, with See or CTE its easy, you align and then pivot one way or the other to make it thinner or thicker. It makes sense geometrically. With this system you align to a perception and then pivot, but the pivot must be entirely feel based. Either you have to align thinner on cuts to the right than cuts to the left (if you start from the left) and/or you have to pivot less. In any case I don't see the reason why you would pivot at all, unless it is to sort of "torque" your stance into place, and even this doesn't make a whole lot of sense if the pivot "lengths" are different. If you are going by feel anyway, it seems much easier to just use the quarter system, since you can then get on to a straight line, which should be easier.
I'll try this system out over the weekend and see if I can even make a single ball with it. I'd be impressed with myself if I could.
Anyway thanks for the link.
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what's Duckie system? Thanks
He even made a statement that goes against TOI.
What a concept that the spin/speed needed to be used on the CB is based on the next shot and where the CB needs to be for position.
He also makes the point, in a roundabout way, I have for awhile and that is to try for a specific spot for the CB to go for position.
That a shot has two parts, making the OB go where you want and making the CB stop where you want. If you just practice making the OB go where you want, you are practicing 1/2 of the shot.
It was also comforting to hear, that even at his level, there are shots that are problems for him.
What a concept that the spin/speed needed to be used on the CB is based on the next shot and where the CB needs to be for position.
He also makes the point, in a roundabout way, I have for awhile and that is to try for a specific spot for the CB to go for position.
That a shot has two parts, making the OB go where you want and making the CB stop where you want. If you just practice making the OB go where you want, you are practicing 1/2 of the shot.
It was also comforting to hear, that even at his level, there are shots that are problems for him.