Does Ivory ferrules affect deflection or whip of shaft?

[billingsmtluke]

I have a fiddleback maple shaft with 1 inch capped Ivory ferrules. This shaft seems to have alot of whip or flex. I was informed that if I have cuemaker cut off the cap to 3/4 inch that alot of the whip could go away. Can anyone on here shed some light on this. Any help would be very appreciated. Best of rolls.... Luke

 

[manwon]

I have a fiddleback maple shaft with 1 inch capped Ivory ferrules. This shaft seems to have alot of whip or flex. I was informed that if I have cuemaker cut off the cap to 3/4 inch that alot of the whip could go away. Can anyone on here shed some light on this. Any help would be very appreciated. Best of rolls.... Luke

While having a shorter ferrule will reduce deflection, it will have little effect on whip. A whippy shaft / flexible shaft is generally due to the diameter of the shaft or the shaft wood itself. Some maple is more flexible then other maple, but normally curly maple shaft wood is pretty stiff, I have a couple of shafts that I play with that are curly and I love them.

Don't know what else to say!!!

 

[KJ Cues]

Ivory is about the heaviest ferrule mtrl. there is except for the metals.
I think Ivorine4 is right up there as well.
The greater the front-end mass of the shaft, the greater the deflection.
Ivory doesn't enhance performance, it detracts from it.
That's just one of the many ways ivory will cost you.

Manwon touched on shaft diameter as a possible cause for the whip.
You didn't say what the diameter is.

 

[RBC]

billingsmtluke

I want to clarify something.

When you say "deflection", are talking about what the cue stick does, or what the cue ball does?

"Deflection" has come to be known as a term to describe Cue Ball Squirt or cue ball deflection when the cue ball is hit to the left or right of center. By the looks of your post, you may be talking about what the shaft does. Although technically, your use of the term is accurate, it does not follow with what most pool players and posters on this forum describe with the term.

Manwon and KJ are both considering the cue ball deflection in their answers, and both are correct in that more tip end mass will cause more cue ball deflection. Ivory is a very heavy material and does increase the squirt of the cue ball. Cutting it down, or reducing it would lessen the mass and also lessen the cue ball deflection.

I see this miss-communication often.

I hope that helps you to see where their answers are coming from. Both are good contributors to our sport and this forum.

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com

 

[randyg]

You got it Royce.

The three most mis-used words in pool. Throw-Deflection-Squirt....SPF=randyg

 

[greyghost]

You got it Royce.

The three most mis-used words in pool. Throw-Deflection-Squirt....SPF=randyg

not this again lol....your dead on tho randy, talk about it'll make your head spin trying to follow conversations sometimes.

 

[billingsmtluke]

billingsmtluke

I want to clarify something.

When you say "deflection", are talking about what the cue stick does, or what the cue ball does?

"Deflection" has come to be known as a term to describe Cue Ball Squirt or cue ball deflection when the cue ball is hit to the left or right of center. By the looks of your post, you may be talking about what the shaft does. Although technically, your use of the term is accurate, it does not follow with what most pool players and posters on this forum describe with the term.

Manwon and KJ are both considering the cue ball deflection in their answers, and both are correct in that more tip end mass will cause more cue ball deflection. Ivory is a very heavy material and does increase the squirt of the cue ball. Cutting it down, or reducing it would lessen the mass and also lessen the cue ball deflection.

I see this miss-communication often.

I hope that helps you to see where their answers are coming from. Both are good contributors to our sport and this forum.

Royce Bunnell
www.obcues.com

Thanks for clarifying this. I guess I didn't know the correct term to use. I'm talking about what the shaft does. After contact the shaft vibrates quite a bit. The shaft is a 12.75mm. Thanks for all your help folks. I really appreciate the feedback.