Doesn't Parica deserve more respect?

joey's right

if not for parica's jealousy and bitterness toward (actually) efren...he would probobly get all the respect he deserves....at least from the Filipino
people,,,

,,,i know this for fact- from some peolple from the media...everytime they talk to him it was about him better than efren..

..i talked to him last year and the first thing he said without being asked is that he beat efren way back in the 70's...and won asia crown...

i really feel sad for him...i liked him better than reyes in person but his pride and bitterness became his adversary...

too sad..
 
I'm not even going to try to compare them. I'm just glad to be here in this time to have seen them both play.

Jose played at the hard times tourny a couple of weeks ago and told me that he was really playing good and that he was going to win the Open.

I said to him how are you going to do that when you can't even win this local tournament? He said watch. Well look at him now, he's on his way. Go Parica!!
 
dabarbr said:
Jose played at the hard times tourny a couple of weeks ago and told me that he was really playing good and that he was going to win the Open.

I said to him how are you going to do that when you can't even win this local tournament? He said watch. Well look at him now, he's on his way. Go Parica!!

C'mon, everybody knows the HardTimes tournaments are harder than the U.S. open!
 
1pocket said:
I know that, and even though the thread opened with the observation, "Other players are measured against the world, while Parica is measured alone against Reyes," the comparison to Reyes is still about all that has come up as the thread has progressed :) (with the exception of Terry Ardeno, who got into a brief Hopkins/Parica comparison).

Face it, nobody compares well to Reyes. Well, nobody living anyway. Maybe Greenleaf and Mosconi among the deceased, yet even those two didn't begin to approach the all-around achievements of Reyes.

But against the rest of the un-enshrined in the BCA HOF (and most of the enshrined, for that matter) doesn't Parica look damn good?

Terry, I know you're good on this kind of thing, but you brought up Hopkins -- how many US Opens has Hopkins won? This isn't a test, I just can't find the winner/runner up list :)

Hopkins won the U.S. Open 9 Ball Championship in 1977 & 1981.
 
This is really tough for me as I really like Jose. Ive seen him give up the nuts and fearlessly play with his own cash, down to his rent money. Rarely have I ever seen Efren play for his own money for long sessions or big money. Efren is my favorite.
Ive seen Jose on the road by himself while Efren always had someone with him like Mike Lebron or a filipino entourage. Im not knocking Efren. I think he does it the right way. Ali always had a syndicate behind him until he got rich enough to do it on his own. Efren is smart business wise even though he acts the country bumpkin who "got lucky". I think Jose lacks this. But he is a real warrior with a warriors ego. Like the old samurai's of the past they all ended up in the dust and lorded over by the men with the money. Jose is one of a kind. We are so lucky to have seen his ilk.
 
It is true that the US Open has eluded Jose, although he has come close several times, including yet another 'top few' finish this year apparently. It's not the 'US Open Hall of Fame' however.

Jose has:
- won plenty of major events over a looooong career
- led the Philipine invation
- like recently inducted Sang Lee, has adopted the USA
- has to be considered among the very best all-around players of all time

And he belongs (along with Hopkins :) ) in the BCA Hall of Fame

(Terry -- don't you think the only reason Hopkins isn't in there yet is because he started up his highly successful Valley Forge show, which the BCA considers competition? Ironically, being a successful show promoter ought to help him, not hurt him -- his absence from the HOF certainly exposes the flaws of the old BCA voting system. Now that they have changed, maybe we'll see Hopkins get in...)
 
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