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Who out there has had a hard time with money balls or the shot before the money ball? I'm talking about missing ducks. I'll be playing fine and it will come out of no where. It is very frustrating.
 
Jimk said:
Who out there has had a hard time with money balls or the shot before the money ball? I'm talking about missing ducks. I'll be playing fine and it will come out of no where. It is very frustrating.
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Play enough where you feel comfortable shooting the money ball. Remember, winning one game isn't the match. It's just a way to keep score. Become the one that wants the shot. Jordanish, if you will. I want ball in hand with six balls on the table with hill-hill. At least he's not shooting. It's in YOUR hands. Pound it into his mind that there is no fear. No let up. Play, and play some more. Play lesser players and run over them. Play better players and have to stretch out. Eventually, it will be second nature.
 
Jimk said:
Who out there has had a hard time with money balls or the shot before the money ball? I'm talking about missing ducks. I'll be playing fine and it will come out of no where. It is very frustrating.
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EVERYBODY, except DCP, has dogged it.

Prepare to shoot and shoot the case ball in the same manner you shoot any other ball. The longer your down in your shooting position focusing on the exact contact point on the OB the greater chance of missing. Do all your studying PRE stance/stroke. :)
 
Can"t "Seal the Deal"

I've suffered it.
The inability to "seal the deal"!
You sound as though you are at the same spot. Move through an entire rack, taking out pesky clusters, moving other balls into position while making balls, spinning it, inside, outside, all around the table and then, when you are left with the fruits of your labor (and I am not talking tough cuts or banks here) you manage to puke all over yourself.
I have never snapped a cue in anger (golf clubs-different story) but the incredible frustration that I have experienced when I have managed the hard parts only to fail on the easy is one of the most intense feelings that I have had (surpassed only by those times when I was able to close it out).
I have considered getting 15 eight balls and just shooting those so that when I do get down over it in a match situation it would become just as any other shot.
All this being said...the only thing that has come close to working is by consciously taking a very focused approach when facing those final two or three shots.
Take a little longer.
Take the time to look at it from all sides
Consciously take a deeper breath
and most of all,
actually see the shot happening in its entirety (shot speed, collision, object ball moving into the pocket, cue ball rolling out and stopping).
Haven't fixed it completely but it is getting better. Recognizing the issue is the first step toward fixing it.
 
watch people on a roll, they move faster and faster, they get to the money ball and they are down in stance for 2 seconds and blast it. Shoot every shot exactly the same, whether its the 1 or the 9, hanger or hard......i guess im sayin get a preshot routine and stick to it always
 
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Prepare to shoot and shoot the case ball in the same manner you shoot any other ball. The longer you are down in your shooting position focusing on the exact contact point on the OB the greater chance of missing. Do all your studying PRE stance/stroke.

/QUOTE] contact point on cue ball or object ball is always invisible. Ball to ball is always totally visible.
 
It drives my crazy when I break open a rack of 9-ball and get an open table only to miss the 7 or 8 ball.

TX Poolnut<---Doggin' it since 1970
 
Focus on your preshot routine & staying down after the shot...it'll help.
Or...buy a cheap stun gun and put it in your pocket and ZAP yourself when you dog it. That'll teach you to stop.:D
 
Don't ever, ever, ever [pause for effect] EVER miss the money ball.

Your a great player, and you deserve to win the game. Put any self doubt behind you, and tell yourself your making the ball, no matter what. Believe in yourself.

And like others said, dance with the girl that brought you; don't change things up, just because it's the money ball. Doing that comes back to what I said before.

No get out there and do it!
 
Thanks to all of you for your good advice. I'm not a pro obviously, but I'm no slouch either. Here's to better days, Jim.
 
its just another ball, and in 9B you dont have to worry about shape so its the easiest shot of the rack.
 
Sorry Fatboy. Always play shape even on the last ball. Other wise you change your normal mental routine which will cause physical differences, which may cause unlikely misses.
 
ginsu said:
Sorry Fatboy. Always play shape even on the last ball. Other wise you change your normal mental routine which will cause physical differences, which may cause unlikely misses.
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I have to agree with ginsu here. Play shape by having a specific place you want the cue-ball to end up after you sink the nine. This will keep your focus up.
 
ginsu said:
Sorry Fatboy. Always play shape even on the last ball. Other wise you change your normal mental routine which will cause physical differences, which may cause unlikely misses.
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i play a zone shape to ensure i dont sratch, but dosent have to precise as getting on the right side of the ball like in the middle of a run out, i have never cheated the pocket with a money ball playing 9B. i might have to cheat the pocket for shape, i dont have any issue dogging the $$$, i went through a short phase of tht when I was a C+ player but shook it off along time ago, i dont hit it blindly but i dont play precise shape thus its still the easiest ball on the table,

one pocket is a different story, sometimes unless its a hanger you have to bury the rock in the stack incase you miss then shape on the money ball is hugely important,
 
Fatboy said:
i play a zone shape to ensure i dont sratch, but dosent have to precise as getting on the right side of the ball like in the middle of a run out, i have never cheated the pocket with a money ball playing 9B. i might have to cheat the pocket for shape, i dont have any issue dogging the $$$, i went through a short phase of tht when I was a C+ player but shook it off along time ago, i dont hit it blindly but i dont play precise shape thus its still the easiest ball on the table,

one pocket is a different story, sometimes unless its a hanger you have to bury the rock in the stack incase you miss then shape on the money ball is hugely important,
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Well then you are playing shape. So your mental and physical Practices are the same as normal, so no let down due to routine changes. Was not the advice you gave the poster. He might not have understood you apply the same mental and physical shot routine as normally performed.

Always like your post not looking for a debate. Just want the orginal poster to understand the correct process as you do.
 
ginsu said:
Sorry Fatboy. Always play shape even on the last ball. Other wise you change your normal mental routine which will cause physical differences, which may cause unlikely misses.
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I think what fatboy is saying is that you don't play shape on the 9 to get to another ball.
 
Why does one's routine change when shooting the money ball?

Is it because they are no longer mentally in the present?
 
One more thing...

Never allow your opponent to conce the money ball, whether in practice sessions or money games. All to often, I see people playing and after shooting the 8, they get good shape on the 9 and their opponent jumps up and starts to rack (or mucks the 9), so you don't have to shoot it. Tell your opponent beforehand, no conceeding the 9!!!

I never understood this practice/courtesy. Its the most important ball on the table, and one can never get in the habit of shooting in that ball enough.

Rg
 
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