Don't understand the DP issues

Lazerrus

Lazerrus

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Ok I have read many posts on here about Dale Perry's cues. I just purchased one of his Ebay cues to find out for myself what all the banter is about. For the money I felt very very satisfied upon opening and examining the cue. Not to mention a very satisfying hit (very Meucci like) I think. So for the price of an imported production cue I get a 1 off. Given they all resemble each other in style it is still a 1 off. I understand some older buyers of his older cues along with some of his older dealers may be a little upset that he found the way to turn product quickly. But in this time and economy at least he is "doin it" Not to mention it allows players without deep pockets to enter into and experience the custom cue hobby. So I look at the cue as this. Is it an investment to make thousands of dollars on one day? NO. Does it compare in beauty to my $4000 Richard Black? NO. Is it worth the less than 2 bills I threw down on it? YES. Is it an attractive good looking good hitting cue that not everyone in the hall has? YES. So overall I say God speed Dale! Crankem' out till ya can't anymore!:thumbup:

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DP cues not for me...

My only personal experience with DP cues is this:

A league teammate purchased one of DP's ebay one off cues. We had a great discussion about his business practices, and cuemaking techniques, and on and on. I hit some balls with it, and overall it hit pretty good, but was a little softer than what I like. The cue looked good, and had lots of inlays and such, but I am not a fan of rounded corners and other side effects of his CNC work. All personal opinions aside, DP does make a nice cue, especially for the money.

Last week at league, my teammate lost his temper over a loss and snapped that DP cue in half at the top of the wrap. Not a very classy move, I agree, but let's save that for another thread. Upon examining the broken cue, I learned that the handle underneath the wrap was a maple core inside of what looked to me like cork, but the maple core was not even close to centered in the handle. The core in the forearm of the cue was also off center, and the most surprising detail is that there was at least a 1/2" gap between the cores with no pins, dowells, tenons, or any other hardware securing the handle to the forearm. I am no cuemaker, and my knowledge of a cue's construction is limitied, but it is obvious to me why the cue broke where it did. Very shoddy construction IMO.

I will never buy a DP cue, but I can also see where you are coming from.
 
poolplayer2093 said:
You say it hits like a meucci? that's not a good thing in my opinion
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Meuci's just have a hit that is ummmm different. I like the hit of them when it comes to getting some action off the cue.
 
Lazerrus said:
Meuci's just have a hit that is ummmm different. I like the hit of them when it comes to getting some action off the cue.
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it's all the plastic i think and the fact that they're so thin that give it the strange hit.
 
steveL75121 said:
Meucci's hit with the best of them!:) :) and that's from alot of opinions!!!(World Champions)!
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old Meucci's play good, to bad they forgot how to make good hittng cues. They went bad a LONG time ago-prior to what they make now 25 years ago they did make great hitting cues that were infact endorsed by top players. But thats long gone history, shame.
 
I've said it once, and I'll say it over and over again. Because the medium we're dealing with here is primarily wood, there will always be a chance you'll get a great hitting cue from something that costs only $79 at your local Sports Authority store. And on the other side, there's always a chance you'll get a bum cue from a 'custom' cue maker. However, when you have a guy that is turning them out as fast as DP is now, considering the rarity of truly great shaft materials, and the time that it takes to properly treat the wood before it can be turned down to a shaft, one can't help but to assume that he is not being as selective when it comes to determining what wood goes into a cue, and what wood gets trashed. And I also seriously doubt that he is being as careful in the treatment of his woods as other cue makers that make less than around 20 a year.
If you're happy with your DP, I think it's great because that's all that counts. I won't disagree with you when you say it plays/hits well, although I would have to question your comparison to a Meucci when you describe a nice cue. The term Meucci (late models) just doesn't mean well made cue these days. I will however, go on record to say that when purchasing a DP, the chances of it holding together for a lifetime, as compared to the cues of makers that take their time in the making process as well as the selection and care of their materials, becomes significantly slim compared to your other options in the same price range.
Good luck,
dave
 
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Own one.Ebayed it.Liked it then and like it now.Had it for years and it has held up great.

Your milage may very,for me it was money well spent.
 
Dave. I must say that the Meucci's I am comparing this too are both from 1988 so I can fairly say that a new Meucci I have no experience with. If that is the case then WOW what a shame. However my opinion stands that this is a great cue for the almighty American dollar (for what is worth). I would buy another. I agree upon your medium theory of wood however. That it is very true even in production cues. I have 2 of the same Lucasi models in weight and design. Even upon switching the shafts and hitting with the same shaft on the other cue they hit differently. Bizarre!:confused:
 
I thought the discrepancy was because he mass produces CNC cues now and sells them cheaper than his dealers paid for them before hand?
 
Well Logic what I have gathered, if you search Dave Perry in the forums, is that members seem to be downgrading the cues in relation to his buisness practices which I am saying is not fair to the cues and the work in them in relation to cost. Biggest damn bang for your buck I say!
 
Lazerrus said:
Ok I have read many posts on here about Dale Perry's cues. I just purchased one of his Ebay cues to find out for myself what all the banter is about. For the money I felt very very satisfied upon opening and examining the cue. Not to mention a very satisfying hit (very Meucci like) I think. So for the price of an imported production cue I get a 1 off. Given they all resemble each other in style it is still a 1 off. I understand some older buyers of his older cues along with some of his older dealers may be a little upset that he found the way to turn product quickly. But in this time and economy at least he is "doin it" Not to mention it allows players without deep pockets to enter into and experience the custom cue hobby. So I look at the cue as this. Is it an investment to make thousands of dollars on one day? NO. Does it compare in beauty to my $4000 Richard Black? NO. Is it worth the less than 2 bills I threw down on it? YES. Is it an attractive good looking good hitting cue that not everyone in the hall has? YES. So overall I say God speed Dale! Crankem' out till ya can't anymore!:thumbup:





Given they all resemble each other in style it is still a 1 off. I understand some older buyers of his older cues along with some of his older dealers may be a little upset that he found the way to turn product quickly.

There is much more to it than that, the gentleman screwed his the cue dealers that trusted him, and all the customers who purchased cues from the dealers and himself. It is a matter principles, and he certainly doesn't have any, he is out for one thing and one thing only himself. Now, I have seen these cues being sold on ebay close-up, in fact I have done repairs on some of them. I suppose you get what you pay for, however, service after the sale, from some one with his principles forget about it.

In addition I personally will not support some one who openly screws those who he has done business with. Because if you do, bend over baby and spread those cheeks sooner or later he will screw others.!!!!!!!
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Dale Perry makes a decent production cue. The designs are somewhat repetitious. A few years ago, he made some of the most sought out custom cues. The 1 of 1 thing that he does today is a joke. Still, for $200, they are hard to beat. Try out the warranty repair service and let us all know how it goes.

Joe
 
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Lazerrus said:
Ok I have read many posts on here about Dale Perry's cues. I just purchased one of his Ebay cues to find out for myself what all the banter is about. For the money I felt very very satisfied upon opening and examining the cue. Not to mention a very satisfying hit (very Meucci like) I think. So for the price of an imported production cue I get a 1 off. Given they all resemble each other in style it is still a 1 off. I understand some older buyers of his older cues along with some of his older dealers may be a little upset that he found the way to turn product quickly. But in this time and economy at least he is "doin it" Not to mention it allows players without deep pockets to enter into and experience the custom cue hobby. So I look at the cue as this. Is it an investment to make thousands of dollars on one day? NO. Does it compare in beauty to my $4000 Richard Black? NO. Is it worth the less than 2 bills I threw down on it? YES. Is it an attractive good looking good hitting cue that not everyone in the hall has? YES. So overall I say God speed Dale! Crankem' out till ya can't anymore!:thumbup:

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I went to Detroit MI a few months back. I met up will charlieD and he let me use his wifes DP. But that wasn't as good as the Capone he let me shoot a few games with before hand.

The DP wasn't too bad I have to say. But what do I know.
 
I guess the thing that really upsets me the most, is that we all know what kind of cue he CAN make. I'm glad you like your cue. And for the money, his cues probably are a good deal, but if you knew what he was making before the Ebay era as compared to what he's doing now, you'd understand a little more about why so many people have lost so much respect for his practices. In my opinion, some of his pre Ebay work was some of the best around. So one would think that at the time, his motivations we're what we'd all like to think about cue makers that really love what they do. In that I mean, as most all really great cue makers would say today, the greatest part of their job is watching a players reactions when they play with their much anticipated newly completed cue. I don't see that kind of pride in DP cues today. Look underneath the wrap. Take the butt plug out and look around on the inside. It's all those "areas that aren't seen, and don't count" that will tell you about the amount of pride a cuemaker takes in his work. Just like the guy that had the opportunity to actually see his buddys cue after he broke it. I trust my favorite cuemakers enough to know that none of them would ever let such a piece of wood leave the shop. And, I repeat myself when I say the saddest part of all this, is that all of us that have ever been fortunate enough to have played with a pre Ebay DP know the difference between his level of pride of then and now.
dave
 
No one has a problem with the $200 DP cues.

The problems are with the cues people paid $2000 for and are now worth $200 thanks to DPs new business 'model'.
 
RRfireblade said:
No one has a problem with the $200 DP cues.

The problems are with the cues people paid $2000 for and are now worth $200 thanks to DPs new business 'model'.
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Very true words!!!!!
 
RRfireblade said:
No one has a problem with the $200 DP cues.

The problems are with the cues people paid $2000 for and are now worth $200 thanks to DPs new business 'model'.
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i suppose I'm out of the loop, i thought he made $1000+ custom cues, the good "I'll whore out my good name" business model never fails for the first few years-until things like this educate the uninformed-like me.
 
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