Is it possible to draw the cue ball back w/o follow thru?
I say no.
What do you think?
I say no.
What do you think?
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Yes. For instance, a known technique for avoiding a double hit when the OB is too close is to run the grip hand into the rail to stop follow through.
Unless you're talking about the 1/16" or so of "follow through" during tip/ball contact...
pj
chgo
The physics of the situation indicates that tip and CB are in contact for 1-2 milliseconds.
So you could stop the cue after that 2 ms and CB would not be able to know the difference.
But, yes, a good follow through prevents all kinds of stroke errors leading up to contact--for both draw and follow.
So you could stop the cue after that 2 ms and CB would not be able to know the difference.
But, yes, a good follow through prevents all kinds of stroke errors leading up to contact--for both draw and follow.
Can you find a video that we can see?
??????? But, if you hitting straight into the frozen ball, can you generate draw having no follow thru???????
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Videos from 1983 and 97 of me demonstrating 'Very Close (1/8-1/4" apart) Force-Draw and Force-Follow shots with No Foul!
Thx for the link, but nothing was said about getting cue ball draw off a frozen object ball.
That's my point, how can you get draw w/o follow thru?
I'd like to see that video, that would be great.
I did find the tip hardness/soft vs hard contact time very informative.
I'm gonna do what Bergman does, change to a medium/softer tip.
I've always played with hard.
That's my point, how can you get draw w/o follow thru?
I'd like to see that video, that would be great.
I did find the tip hardness/soft vs hard contact time very informative.
I'm gonna do what Bergman does, change to a medium/softer tip.
I've always played with hard.
I didn't know that's what you were asking. Isn't hitting straight into a frozen CB/OB illegal?
If you're talking about the millisecond of tip/ball contact, of course you can't do anything without that - but "follow through" is usually assumed to mean after contact.
pj
chgo
Probably not a human. A pneumatic or hydraulic piston could. Probably even like VP
Good hit per Gibb Head Referee.
No worse than any grand massé shot….which is allowed even in world snooker.
Human stroke requires windup, momentum and unfortunately, lots of over run.
Give me a half-inch separation and I can draw the cue ball back four diamonds shooting straight at the ball and with no side spin.
Is that sort of what you're talking about?
That's the rail stop though right?
Not needed. With that much separation there are several other techniques that avoid the double hit. Any good (small game) carom player has a short stroke for that kind of position.
K, I see what you mean. Takes new cloth for me and a forgiving opponent just in case.
No gap..... but I think we'd all like to see what you just said. Sounds interesting/impossible/but.
If the balls are frozen, then you have to elevate to draw straight back and there will be some forward travel first.