The follow through is a symptom of a good stroke, but it has no direct influence on the shot. For more info on this topic, see:... the CB gets much of it action from follow through.
Regards,
Dave
The follow through is a symptom of a good stroke, but it has no direct influence on the shot. For more info on this topic, see:... the CB gets much of it action from follow through.
Dr. Dave,
I (and many others) would be extremely interested in seeing a video of a slow motion draw shot.
Place an object ball in the middle of the table, and the cueball in the jaws of a corner pocket. Pocket the ball in the opposite corner pocket, and draw the cueball to make it scratch.
The stipulation is that your follow through cannot be longer than say .25 inches. Or .50 inches if you like.
And we would like to see the results.
Thanks!
Why would I want to try to do that? That's silly.Dr. Dave,
I (and many others) would be extremely interested in seeing a video of a slow motion draw shot.
Place an object ball in the middle of the table, and the cueball in the jaws of a corner pocket. Pocket the ball in the opposite corner pocket, and draw the cueball to make it scratch.
The stipulation is that your follow through cannot be longer than say .25 inches. Or .50 inches if you like.
And we would like to see the results.
Thanks!
Well, the follow through on that shot in the video was maybe 4-6 inches.
I'm looking for him to execute that same shot in the video, but follow through a maximum of .50 inches.
Thank you for the link to that excellent resource!. That video (NV B.65 - Power draw technique advice from VEPS I) has some great advice that can help anybody (even a "D player" like me) hit a decent draw shot.Before you gets to dealing, you better know who you're dealin' with.
Thank you for the link to that excellent resource!. That video (NV B.65 - Power draw technique advice from VEPS I) has some great advice that can help anybody (even a "D player" like me) hit a decent draw shot.oke: :grin-square:
FYI, lots more advice, articles, and video demonstrations concerning how to execute draw shots well and consistently can be found here:
:kiss: :rotflmao1:
Regards,
Dave :wave3:
No. You have convinced me with all of your past analyses of my videos that I am a "D player." And I will expect appropriate "weight" if we ever meet, which I hope happens some day.Don't be so hard on yourself, you're at least a good "C".
No. You have convinced me with all of your past analyses of my videos that I am a "D player." And I will expect appropriate "weight" if we ever meet, which I hope happens some day.
Regards,
Dave
Whenever you do make a change in your game, I think it is wise to make just one change at a time and work on just that one change for at least 2 weeks. Too many changes can be problematic. Each change you make might be beneficial down the road but you need to perfect that change before you move onto another change.
One Pocket John,
Yes, looks like our approach is the same in the hit technique. Nice to see I'm not alone on this one.
The difference in power is amazing.
Only difference is that I turn this into a J-stroke.
I don't pin anything, the 2 German coaches from IPAT are completely against that technique.
Freedom and looseness are the key on draw shots.
Also, another little addition that I like to do on some shots but not all(example extreme draw with English) is to turn my wrist adding even more speed with less backswing.
This probably isn't what you had in mind, but it does show how wrist twisting and stroke swooping can be used for other "dramatic" effects: :yikes:Any chance you could post a video or reference a link to what this looks like?... another little addition that I like to do on some shots but not all (example extreme draw with English) is to turn my wrist adding even more speed with less backswing.
This probably isn't what you had in mind, but it does show how wrist twisting and stroke swooping can be used for other "dramatic" effects: :yikes:
Regards,
Dave
A "wrist flick" or "wrist snap" is very different from the silly "cue twist" technique demonstrated in the video. Some people (e.g., Tom Ross) use a snappy wrist quite effectively. While filming VEPS, I was often blown away by how effortless Tom made some of the power shots look with his amazingly relaxed and snappy wrist.Seen it before, and it is still funny.![]()
The wrist turn I'm describing doesn't change the path of the cue and it has no effect on the shot itself.
It just speeds up your movement sort of giving a running start from a stopped position.
I would not call it a wrist snap as I believe it to be different.
If I come across it I will post it.
A "wrist flick" or "wrist snap" is very different from the silly "cue twist" technique demonstrated in the video. Some people (e.g., Tom Ross) use a snappy wrist quite effectively. While filming VEPS, I was often blown away by how effortless Tom made some of the power shots look with his amazingly relaxed and snappy wrist.
BTW, I hope you didn't take any offense by my video. None was intended.
Regards,
Dave
This probably isn't what you had in mind, but it does show how wrist twisting and stroke swooping can be used for other "dramatic" effects: :yikes:
Regards,
Dave
Ohh no, not at all. I make comments that sometimes can be taken as a shot but are harmless.
I know about wrist snap and the power it can add.
I think it can be complicated to use, especially if someone is having trouble with the motion in the first place.
That's why I made a distinction between what I'm describing and the snap.
In a nutshell, I believe the easiest draw comes out of motion of underhanded softball throw.
One Pocket John added like underhanded pitching all the way to the OB ball.
This I believe to be exactly the way to execute the shot, I just turn it into a J-stroke.
The additional wrist 'cocking' of sorts at the back stop just before the stroke is not necessary, I just added as an additional trick which just speeds up the motion.
But again that can complicate the situation as well.
I have a feeling Mantis's cue is going into the CB diagonally down in a straight line.
While the motion described by me starts as pendulum and goes into the CB more parallel to the table.
But I could be wrong.
Best regards
The wrist twist is actually a legitimate technique used for banking... While I will not argue that you cannot do the exact same thing by simply aiming and applying english at setup it. It is a center ball aiming system with different amounts of wrist twist in either direction to cause the banking angle to lengthen or shorten up...
If I see a bank is dead on to bank a diamond short I can simply twist it in to the pocket without having to aim at anything other than a center ball hit.... I am sure there are all sorts of geometric holes in the system and it is mainly useful cross table but I was taught by someone who had been taught by Eddie Taylor... If there was no merit it could not be taught because it would not be consistent in application...
I have taught several people to use it on hold up banks because it gets the thought of the double kiss from even entering into your head.... It is also pretty useful in getting beginners to start pocketing some banks.. I showed a league players wife a few banks with it and she started making them and doesn't play much pool... He stopped me the next time I was in the pool room and had me show him... He had just ignored what I was showing her until he saw her results....