It's funny, I hate drop pockets for one hole. The reason is most players keep the balls in the pockets, and the score is not easy to see. You have to look in the corner and side pockets (4 total), and often stick your hand in there to shift the balls around to count them. In contrast, on a ball return table, the player must put the balls on the rack above the return (on a GC). So the score can be seen at a glance.If too much walking is why one doesn't like drops they need to get in shape.I don't mind returns for 9b/8b but they suck for playing one pocket.
Surprised you have enough room. Most gully tables i've played on the pockets are barely deep enough for 1 ball. The GCs at one of the houses I play the sides will barely take a ball with pace without spitting it back out.Both. Table with ball return, but with large car wash sponges in the pockets to make it a drop pocket table. My back can only take so much leaning over and gathering balls out of the return.
From what I've seen is matchroom when using diamonds still use gullies on most tables other than the stream/TV tables. Maybe you could get diamond to put the drop pockets in the Pro-Am like used on some of the matchroom tables or go with a professional which is drop pocket.Do any of the pro tournaments, WNT or Predator/WPA, still use gulley tables?
I like gulleys for practice, but I like drops for games. Gonna half to think about it before I buy a Diamond table. Used to think I'd get a gulley. Now I am not sure.
Wish Diamond would come up with pocket insets that could dropped into a gulley table. That would be something.
conversely there are also drop pocket tables with ball holdersIt's funny, I hate drop pockets for one hole. The reason is most players keep the balls in the pockets, and the score is not easy to see. You have to look in the corner and side pockets (4 total), and often stick your hand in there to shift the balls around to count them. In contrast, on a ball return table, the player must put the balls on the rack above the return (on a GC). So the score can be seen at a glance.
Different story I suppose on a table that has no ball keeping devices.
Yes. Like every drop pocket GC. But I find that many one pocket players don’t use the holders unless they are forced to by a gulley return.conversely there are also drop pocket tables with ball holders
You can have me come take that junk off your handsI like the gully, because i'm lazy and don't like pulling balls out of the pockets. But sadly my table at home has drop pockets
Ditto! Especially playing straight pool. I like to think about strategy while my opponent racks, not shagging balls.Gully 100%. I have a 9’ GC IV and I can’t stand drop pockets .. clearing balls when pockets get full, the clicking ball on ball sound when you make a shot, walking around the table collecting balls every time you rack .. nope .. sucks! I can practice 3000 stroke drill into corner pocket without ever having to walk away from the ball box