DVD Review- CJ Wiley's Million Dollars Challenge

Pinky, I am going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess.

It was either, the 2,3,4,5,6,7, or just maybe the 8.

At your service as always.

Snow Man from Sask.

smart-ass! while "ï don't discriminate" - i'm willing to make an exception @ you....
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That is correct, we have the 12th rack on video (he ran the 11 th one too), and he came within an inch of making the 9 Ball on that "bank/carom" shot.

Here's another CLIP from 'Billiard's Perfect Miss' telling more about Earl's "Million Dollar Run" with myself and Jay Helfert.

EARL COULDN'T BE STOPPED AND PUSHED JAY OUT OF THE WAY!!! click here

I should know this, but am too lazy to go through all the posts or re-fire the video. What was the race to during this historic match? I thought it was a race to 11...
 
My biggest question is what the hell was the camera man doing zooming in on the one ball and not even coming close to capturing the nine drop.

If I'm the insurance company I'm saying, "yeah all you guys are friends and agreed to cheer if the shot was made or not. You get nothing! You lose. Good day, sir!"

It is said that it won't be revealed why the insurance company fought it but I wonder if that was part of it.


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Are we sure Earl did not rack AT ALL after the 5th rack?
Pay close attention during those video taped racks. ;)


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race to 15

I should know this, but am too lazy to go through all the posts or re-fire the video. What was the race to during this historic match? I thought it was a race to 11...

The PCA matches were a race to 15 except for the Semis and Finals (TV Matches).
 
he DID rack after the 5th rack.

Are we sure Earl did not rack AT ALL after the 5th rack?
Pay close attention during those video taped racks. ;)


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We're sure he DID rack after the 5th rack.
 
We're sure he DID rack after the 5th rack.

I don't mean the 6th rack. :) During the final 5 racks, maybe it was the 8th, Earl racks his own. It was a couple racks before the 10th game. You can clearly hear someone in the audience saying "8 down, 2 to go", while Earl was racking.
 
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Were they true, exaggerated, or simply remembered incorrectly?

I don't mean the 6th rack. :) During the final 5 racks, maybe it was the 8th, Earl racks his own. It was a couple racks before the 10th game. You can clearly hear someone in the audience saying "8 down, 2 to go", while Earl was racking.

Yes, Earl racks games that I would have swore Jay racked (and I think Jay would agree)......if I didn't have those racks on video no one would believe what really happened, because no one remembered it correctly.

Except Earl, when you listen to him tell what happened he's the most accurate, which goes against "logic"....you'd think with all the pressure and focus that Earl would be the one to forget "the facts" of the 11 racks....and this line of thinking would be incorrect.

This is quite the contrary, which sheds a "new light" on some of the pool stories you hear BEFORE video was used. Were they true, exaggerated, or simply remembered incorrectly? I have no idea, what I have learned is fact is more unbelievable than fiction sometimes.......and pool may be the "sample example" of this phenomenon.

TV CLIP - THE RACKING OF THE MILLION DOLLAR MATCH

'The Game is the Teacher'
 
Yes, Earl racks games that I would have swore Jay racked (and I think Jay would agree)......if I didn't have those racks on video no one would believe what really happened, because no one remembered it correctly.

Except Earl, when you listen to him tell what happened he's the most accurate, which goes against "logic"....you'd think with all the pressure and focus that Earl would be the one to forget "the facts" of the 11 racks....and this line of thinking would be incorrect.

This is quite the contrary, which sheds a "new light" on some of the pool stories you hear BEFORE video was used. Were they true, exaggerated, or simply remembered incorrectly? I have no idea, what I have learned is fact is more unbelievable than fiction sometimes.......and pool may be the "sample example" of this phenomenon.

TV CLIP - THE RACKING OF THE MILLION DOLLAR MATCH

'The Game is the Teacher'


My point is, if the insurance company required someone else to rack the final 5 racks, then it's not only the 6th rack that violated the requirement (hence the importance of running that 11th rack). Earl racked his own in the 9th game. Its no wonder the insurance company fought this.

I can see the insurance company not wanting to fight that the 10th rack nine ball combo wasn't caught on video. With that many witnesses there's no way they could win. Doubtful the insurance company outlined the recording requirements in detail. But it seems there were multiple violations of the insurance company's loosely defined (I guess) requirements.

Oh well...letter of the law vs spirit of the law I guess. Cheaper for the insurance company to get out rather than to try to prove Earl did not run 10 racks for a million.

This might be the most intriguing video I own. So much history before/during/after the event that it helps shine light on. With that said it may also lure the conspiracy theorists into pointing out these arguably trivial details. I'm hoping not to come across as one of them. ;)

I was a HUGE fan until I met up with Earl about 5-6 years ago. I put him on my $#!+ list after witnessing his incredibly sour attitude at a 10 ball event. Then recently someone brought him to Steinway where he is now the house pro. He is finally at home, getting some much needed support and respect, and getting his stroke back. Last year's Turning Stone showed his game is coming back to life and he is gaining a lot of new fans. This video just adds some spice to it all. I'm one of his biggest fans now. :)


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The insurance company made some vital strategic mistakes at the very beginning

My point is, if the insurance company required someone else to rack the final 5 racks, then it's not only the 6th rack that violated the requirement (hence the importance of running that 11th rack). Earl racked his own in the 9th game. Its no wonder the insurance company fought this.

I can see the insurance company not wanting to fight that the 10th rack nine ball combo wasn't caught on video. With that many witnesses there's no way they could win. Doubtful the insurance company outlined the recording requirements in detail. But it seems there were multiple violations of the insurance company's loosely defined (I guess) requirements.

Oh well...letter of the law vs spirit of the law I guess. Cheaper for the insurance company to get out rather than to try to prove Earl did not run 10 racks for a million.

This might be the most intriguing video I own. So much history before/during/after the event that it helps shine light on. With that said it may also lure the conspiracy theorists into pointing out these arguably trivial details. I'm hoping not to come across as one of them. ;)

I was a HUGE fan until I met up with Earl about 5-6 years ago. I put him on my $#!+ list after witnessing his incredibly sour attitude at a 10 ball event. Then recently someone brought him to Steinway where he is now the house pro. He is finally at home and getting his stroke back, and last year's Turning Stone win has coming back to life, with more support and so less bitterness. This video just adds some spice to it all. I'm one of his biggest fans now. :)


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Thanks, Earl could not have been any better in our interview imo he's calm, informative and entertaining......we did have issues with his voice because it goes up a lot when he gets excited talking about the 11 racks......and of course the "dew point" factor.

The insurance company made some vital strategic mistakes at the very beginning that prevented them from objecting to "who racked the 7th and 8th rack"......this took too long to explain and we opted to cut it out of the documentary.....it's just legal mumbo jumbo. ;)

I'm glad you're back to being a fan of Earl now, I have a feeling many people will enjoy seeing the side of Earl that we captured in 'Billiard's Perfect Miss'

Play Well, Bud
 
If you can't see why the constant self promotion gets annoying then you can never understand why he's busting CJ's chops. I don't see JCIN posting every 5 minutes about some TAR product in every post. I enjoy CJ's posts when they bring something to the table, but they are fairly far and few between. Like I said, i'm not gonna hate, but it has made me think twice about buying his product. Unless I see a stellar review I will support pool by buying another product, more than likely the next TAR match.

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on a seperate note, to the guy that said something to the effect of, "if you only have $30 to spend on pool..." REALLY>???? Because supporting something with the little they have to offer somehow negates their love for the game??? I don't get it.

I have a second child on the way, and I am saving as much, and as often as I can. When life picks back up and I'll (hopefully, you never know with a wife and kids...) have thousands to blow on my passion, should I still consider a different hobby then??? I've spent THOUSANDS supporting pool, whether it's buying cues, cases, accessories, or buying DVD's, books, streamed events, or entering in tournaments. At this point in time, my wife and I are saving so I don't have as much as I would like, but god knows I've spent a stupid amount of money on this hobby already, and I will probably spend more.

It was a rude, and inconsiderate statement. There are a lot of people that would love to have a simple extra $30 in general, let alone and extra $30 to blow on pool junk. You should think before you post. It takes ALL types in this world, and not everyone has an extra $30 lying around.

END OF RANT.

<<<I come from nearly nothing, and statements about people who have a lack of extra dough send me into orbit, sorry for the rant.

There is an irony in a post of this nature coming from someone whose every post contains an advert for cue cases. :D
 
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You are certainly "The Voice of Reason"

There is an irony in a post of this nature coming from someone whose every post contains an advert for cue cases. :D

You are certainly "The Voice of Reason"

'The Irony is the Teacher'
 
You are certainly "The Voice of Reason"

'The Irony is the Teacher'

I don't mind the slight adverts in sigs. That's the point. if he just posted about his several areas of knowledge, every post would be a free advert that would be actually appreciated.

VOR, you're a smart little troll... Good on you.
 
I still believe he would have run that rack, but......

Earl had to run 11 because he wouldn't let Jay rack when it became required. No one knew that the 11th rack was required at the time. If he would have not ran the 11th it would have been a huge tragedy.

I think Jay would have felt partially responsible if Earl didn't run that 11th rack for not saying, "EARL YOU WILL BE DISQUALIFIED FROM THE MILLION IF YOU DONT LET ME RACK NOW!!!"


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Watching Earl laugh and joke with the crowd as he's running the 11 th rack....stopping to change shafts and comment about "he now has enough money to by a new on"....is really funny now that we know he was still under the "million dollar pressure"......

I still believe he would have run that rack, but there was still a chance ......... of course it was "meant to be" and I'm convinced of that now more than ever.
 
Wow. I didn't even notice that Earl racked those racks.

Can you give us a reader's digest version about how you got around that?


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we didn't see any reason to "wake the dead". LoL

Wow. I didn't even notice that Earl racked those racks.

Can you give us a reader's digest version about how you got around that?


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This is the advantage of spending 300k in a legal defense. My attorney
had them so confused they forgot to study the video.
....and we didn't see any reason to "wake the dead". LoL

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Watching Earl laugh and joke with the crowd as he's running the 11 th rack....stopping to change shafts and comment about "he now has enough money to by a new on"....is really funny now that we know he was still under the "million dollar pressure"......

I still believe he would have run that rack, but there was still a chance ......... of course it was "meant to be" and I'm convinced of that now more than ever.

It seems apparent to me, having watched rack 11 3 times, that Earl had no clue how important running out that rack may have been. He was yakking and smacking the whole rack. He dropped 3 on the break. Made a nice 1st shot... A couple shots later he drew back from the 6 further than he wanted to - to get on the 8 and had to play it in the side with the CB on the rail. The 9 was a hanger.

The crowd was electric and loud. And as happy as Earl behaved, you'd have thought he won a million dollars. :grin-square:
 
"pay the man!"

If the rack don't fit, you must acquit!

:)

This is what Earl's former wife, Lisa, wrote on FaceBook about the final day:

Lisa Moss (Earl's wife at the time of the Million Dollar Challenge)

"If I remember correctly",

it was recorded in one of the many court documents the presiding judge ULTIMATELY disciplined the insurance carriers atty. on ethics and stated "PAY THE MAN!"
 
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