Eagle Eye Takes Aim at 14.1 High Runs

bud green

Dolley and Django
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Phenomenal display of raw talent from a truly amazing player.

Pool, golf, darts, chess, you name it...some people just have the gift.
 

Cameron Smith

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The straight pool challenge at the Derby is a decade old. Obviously this has its own nuances (like free, unlimited tries), but the concept of multiple tries for the highest run possible has been done. The execution of the idea to go to an old school easier table and stream it has to be credited to John Schmidt. I know Bobby says he’s wanted to do this for a while, so I’m glad he’s doing it.
I am familiar with the challenge. I think Weenie Bernie was talking about something more along the lines of John and Bobby’s event. The unlimited tries and soft equipment are crucial to any effort to set a gargantuan run.
 

ChrisinNC

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Yeah I agree with your other statement
If those guys wanted to they could have.
Probably

Shaw has shown us this now with 2 300 runs on back to back days with half a dozen 200 runs in 2 days on a table he's not even familiar with
It seems to be the case with all the players that many of their high runs have ended with a scratch on the break shot. I think that’s just the nature of this game to expect to have 20+ to 30+ consecutive rack runs without getting a bad roll on a break shot takes not only extreme skill but extreme luck as well. I guess it’s the trade-off of having forgiving pockets, as it makes it easier to scratch.
 

lfigueroa

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It seems to be the case with all the players that many of their high runs have ended with a scratch on the break shot. I think that’s just the nature of this game to expect to have 20+ to 30+ consecutive rack runs without getting a bad roll on a break shot takes not only extreme skill but extreme luck as well. I guess it’s the trade-off of having forgiving pockets, as it makes it easier to scratch.

I think the player can do a lot to minimize the possibility of a scratch but it takes some knowledge.

How much follow, how much draw, how much english, what speed, and even how much elevation. And then there is the issue of how steep an angle you leave yourself for the break and what break ball you choose. The steeper the angle the fewer options you have left yourself.

IOWs, IMO, there is much a player can do to help themselves in this regard but it takes knowledge and experience. And anyone who says it’s a issue revolving around 5” pockets does not know what they are talking about because a player with 14.1 experience and knowledge knows how to minimize that problem.

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

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On page 2 I predicted a high run of 350 with 250 to 350 being his bandwidth during his time here in terms of his best runs. I hope he does better than that, but , in any event, he has had some very nice runs to date.

Bobby and I both made predictions before he started and they are preserved in a text.

They’re only 30 balls in difference but I think one of us will be close. After he’s done I will reveal.

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

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On page 2 I predicted a high run of 350 with 250 to 350 being his bandwidth during his time here in terms of his best runs. I hope he does better than that, but , in any event, he has had some very nice runs to date.

Bobby and I both made predictions and they are preserved in a text.

They’re only 30 balls in difference but I think one of us will be close.

Is Jason playing some more tonight?

Should start shortly.

Lou Figueroa
 
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skip100

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526 does seem wiithin the realm of imagination based on what we've seen. 626 is a whole other kettle of fish.

Some heavy hitters have taken big shots and there haven't been any 400s, let alone 500s. Who will be the fiirst to hit 400? It might take a repeat visit, or multiple repeat visits.
 

ChrisinNC

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I think the player can do a lot to minimize the possibility of a scratch but it takes some knowledge.

How much follow, how much draw, how much english, what speed, and even how much elevation. And then there is the issue of how steep an angle you leave yourself for the break and what break ball you choose. The steeper the angle the fewer options you have left yourself.

IOWs, IMO, there is much a player can do to help themselves in this regard but it takes knowledge and experience. And anyone who says it’s a issue revolving around 5” pockets does not know what they are talking about because a player with 14.1 experience and knowledge knows how to minimize that problem.

Lou Figueroa
Agreed, but minimizing it is completely different than being able to totally eliminate it. I would say a player who scratches once every 30 break shots is doing about as good a job as he possibly can, but it’s still going to occasionally happen, as we’ve seen.

It also needs to be said that with the only goal for this format being an extremely high run, means the break shot strategy is going to be completely different than it would be if it was in a tournament match.

In a tournament match, you can always be a little more conservative in how hard you are blasting into the rack, knowing that there is always the option of playing a safety if you get stuck. In this format, that is not an option, which is why the players are more aggressive on their break shots, which in turn leads to a higher chance of a scratch.
 

iusedtoberich

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I didn't notice Shaw ever ask the balls to be cleaned, whereas Earl was asking for cleaning every few racks. Did I miss it, or Shaw didn't care?
 

Fatboy

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So what happens if he lands between 526 and 626?

Then what value does the mystery tape have?

Again not picking sides or a fight. Just stirring the soup.

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Fatboy
 

iusedtoberich

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So what happens if he lands between 526 and 626?

Then what value does the mystery tape have?

Again not picking sides or a fight. Just stirring the soup.

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Fatboy
I think its a fair bet the JS tape will never be released, so it really doesn't have a value. But, even if someone ran 1000 on a free stream, I think JS still has the same exhibition angle he is doing now (or was before corona). I don't think a 1000 ball run diminishes JS's exhibition potential.
 

Fatboy

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I think its a fair bet the JS tape will never be released, so it really doesn't have a value. But, even if someone ran 1000 on a free stream, I think JS still has the same exhibition angle he is doing now (or was before corona). I don't think a 1000 ball run diminishes JS's exhibition potential.
I’d like to see JS make some $. Just seems like his window might be closing a bit that’s all. Possibly I’m wrong and he’s happy with his result and his decision to handle his biz the way he has. Not my biz.

Fun to sweat great 14.1, especially when you can actually see it, not just hear about a result.

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Fatboy
 
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