Earl in HOF what a joke

EL'nino

EL'nino

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Earl is the greatest player who ever played the game and he needs no validation from some half witted "BOZO" organization like the HOF. Earl had more than enough credentials at the age of 24 to have been in the HOF. Buddy Hall didn't even get in until his mid 50s. The HOF deserves no recognition or respect from the Pool community. Earl Strickland is much bigger than the HOF will ever be.
 
You are right. When people like robert byrne and robin dodson make it in before earl strickland you have something wrong!!!
 
EL'nino said:
Earl is the greatest player who ever played the game and he needs no validation from some half witted "BOZO" organization like the HOF. Earl had more than enough credentials at the age of 24 to have been in the HOF. Buddy Hall didn't even get in until his mid 50s. The HOF deserves no recognition or respect from the Pool community. Earl Strickland is much bigger than the HOF will ever be.
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You're suggesting that he should decline the induction?
 
Very true,i am looking for Archer to be in,he should have been in before Ewa Laurance in my book.
 
I think he should laugh at them. If anything they should humbaly ask for his aughtograph
 
EL'nino said:
Earl Strickland is much bigger than the HOF will ever be.
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i'm no earl fan, but i can't argue with that. where Is the billiard HOF anyway,,,,in a trailer park somewhere? is it like a traveling exhibit or something?
 
I thought the HOF´ers came into the IPT tournaments one round later then the "normal" players, which means at least 12,000$ in prize money instead of 6,000$. Since Earl went out in the first round, he won´t mind to much will he?
 
Downplaying the significance of the HOF is personally insulting to every individual who's been inducted. To say that one player is bigger than a group of 49 of the best billiard & pocket billiard players and contributors ever is ridiculous.

Would you tell Efren Reyes or Mike Sigel to their faces that the HOF is a joke? I DOUBT IT. Neither would Earl. I'm sure that he is respectful and reverent of the distinguished members in the HOF.

What's the big fuss anyway? The guy is still young. Why would they induct a 24 year old when his career is only starting? Hoppy is in the silver years of his playing career (IMO) so the timing is right there. I think he could be inducted for playing achievements and meritous service.
 
NaClBandit said:
Downplaying the significance of the HOF is personally insulting to every individual who's been inducted. To say that one player is bigger than a group of 49 of the best billiard & pocket billiard players and contributors ever is ridiculous.

Would you tell Efren Reyes or Mike Sigel to their faces that the HOF is a joke? I DOUBT IT. Neither would Earl. I'm sure that he is respectful and reverent of the distinguished members in the HOF.

What's the big fuss anyway? The guy is still young. Why would they induct a 24 year old when his career is only starting? Hoppy is in the silver years of his playing career (IMO) so the timing is right there. I think he could be inducted for playing achievements and meritous service.
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What I'm saying is that their credibility is in serious question when Robin Dodson and Robert Burnes are inducted before a (MEGA TALANT) like Earl. Earl & Buddy have been Godzilla & KingKong for many many years & just now they are being recognized? I think 30 years ago Buddy had already done more for pool than Robin Dodson ever will.
 
Very astute points, El Nino....I've said for a long time, the BCA should be known as the BILLIARD CONGRESS for AMATEURS because all they seem to know is propping amatuer pool. Listen, how can they have Cicero Murphy in their "Hall of Fame" when one of their required credentials used to be that the honoree had to have won a santioned BCA World Champuionship, yet, when you look in their record book for World 14.1 Champions, Cicero's name is noteworthy by his absence. He won a "World Championship" in 1965, but the BCA didn't recognize it. Now, you have the GREATEST TOURNAMENT PLAYER IN 9 BALL HISORY (6 World Championships, 5 U.S. Opens, etc.) and HE is JUST NOW being inducted?
Somebody else had posted some time back about how the voting takes place at the ol' BCA...they mail out "ballots" to the people who buy vender booths at their trade show, and these people get to vote...Wow! And something else, there really is no "Hall of Fame building "per say...just in the book. By the way, the BCA also has updated their list pf past 14.1 champions...can you imagine the NFL or MLB changing who won in the past? And how about their U.S. Open 14.1 Championship, the one they have every 9 years or so...
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Very astute points, El Nino....I've said for a long time, the BCA should be known as the BILLIARD CONGRESS for AMATEURS because all they seem to know is propping amatuer pool. Listen, how can they have Cicero Murphy in their "Hall of Fame" when one of their required credentials used to be that the honoree had to have won a santioned BCA World Champuionship, yet, when you look in their record book for World 14.1 Champions, Cicero's name is noteworthy by his absence. He won a "World Championship" in 1965, but the BCA didn't recognize it. Now, you have the GREATEST TOURNAMENT PLAYER IN 9 BALL HISORY (6 World Championships, 5 U.S. Opens, etc.) and HE is JUST NOW being inducted?
Somebody else had posted some time back about how the voting takes place at the ol' BCA...they mail out "ballots" to the people who buy vender booths at their trade show, and these people get to vote...Wow! And something else, there really is no "Hall of Fame building "per say...just in the book. By the way, the BCA also has updated their list pf past 14.1 champions...can you imagine the NFL or MLB changing who won in the past? And how about their U.S. Open 14.1 Championship, the one they have every 9 years or so...
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I agree, their credibility is just to suspect for the likes of Buddy & Earl to even give them the time of day..... let alone be honored. I would love to see Earl tell them (better yet) don't tell them anything, just ignore them.
 
Not quite

Double-Dave said:
I thought the HOF´ers came into the IPT tournaments one round later then the "normal" players, which means at least 12,000$ in prize money instead of 6,000$. Since Earl went out in the first round, he won´t mind to much will he?
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They came in on the 3rd round and were guranteed 30,000 but that was a one time thing. They are not getting that guarantee in the future.
 
bruin70 said:
i'm no earl fan, but i can't argue with that. where Is the billiard HOF anyway,,,,in a trailer park somewhere? is it like a traveling exhibit or something?
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I fairly sure that there is no building, traveling exibit etc or anything. If I'm not mistaken it's all just recorded on paper somewhere with the BCA. I could be wrong on this.

Here's the website URL (EARL) for the BCA HOF:

http://www.bca-pool.com/industry/hof/hof.shtml

RJ
 
In others sports players that had GREAT careers often get voted in on the first ballot.

Not to begrudge Ewa Mataya and Robin Bell (for womens pool) because they are worthy inductees.Having said this, Earl should have been inducted immediatly on the very first ballot.

For the MAJORS he's won in his sport a simuliar comparison would be leaving Tiger Woods out of his first ballot,when it finally occurs.
JMO, RJ
 
I think before any player is considered for the HOF they should be retired for at least 5 yrs just like in any other sport. To me people in the billiards HOF getting inducted while they are still playing is a joke and it devalues the meaning of the HOF. I think the billiards HOF is a joke for that simple reason.
 
One could say though that they want to wait until a player is older to induct them into the hall of fame. This is the way every other major sport does it. Almost every sport requires you to have not played for a certain number of years (varying by sport). The fact that pool players play competitively well into their 50's, 60's and so on for some shows us that pool cannot do it that way. But when you look at the hall of fame you want to look across a career. While Strickland is still playing very well, he has past his "prime", and that's usually when players are inducted into the HOF.

For example, Wu Chia Ching. What he did this past year was amazing. He won not only the world 9 ball championship, but then doubled up with the world 8 ball championship, all at the age of 16. This is possibly one of the greatest accomplishments in pool history, but nobody is looking to throw him into the HOF right away, right? No doubt though if he continues playing well and winning titles throughout the years, he will be in the HOF.

Basically, all i'm saying is that the HOF in any sport is seen as a group whose overall career achievements are remarkable, they didnt just have a few good years here and there(he def. had a lot of good years). Earl is definately at that point in his career now.

also, i think the HOF wants a certain level of maturity and whatnot. They do not want a bunch of 20 and 30 somethings runnin around actin like jerks and puttin a bad face on the game. While Earl is still a little edgy, he has gotten better over the years.
 
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EARL STRICKLAND INDUCTED INTO THE BCA HALL OF FAME!!!!

TAP TAP TAP

P.S. Bout freakin time!! :D
 
I know Earl felt slighted because he has not been admitted before. It is common knowledge it was because of his attitude and behavior. He also realized this and tried to change.

Now that he is in do you think he will revert back to being Earl?
 
5ballcharlie said:
You are right. When people like robert byrne and robin dodson make it in before earl strickland you have something wrong!!!
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:cool: I'll tell you one reason. Because you can go into a pool shop in a city in Northern China (where theres only one american) and buy Robert Byrnes instructional pool vcds and pool trick shots vcds and take them home to watch. Earl never made it this far. Thats fame. :cool:
 
Varner and Sigel have been in the HOF for a pretty long time; they might as well put in Earl, Allen H. , and Jose Parica even though they still play.
Archer has won enough already to go in, too, now that I think about it.

It's hard to compare book authors to pool players. Byrne and Daly have written some of the best books on pool but a lot of players only care about who won championships. Maybe 1% of players even know who Daly is these days.
 
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