Earl - Mars comment question/comment

It's the crowds fault - It's not Earl's fault.
It's okay because he's Earl and everyone knows how he is.
It's a gambling match and anything goes.
Earl is colorful and great for pool.
Earl blah, blah, blah.

To all the above I say BULLSHIT! I'm not giving the guy a pass for behaving the way he is right now. I've seen McEnroe, Hellmuth, Fats and Bucktooth. None of them are anything like Earl, and not nearly as offensive to their opponents or the audience. In this respect Earl is in a class by himself, low class!

If this is the shot in the arm pool needs, I'll find another profession. I will quit this game before I see it turn into WWF or it's equivalent.

P.S. Yes, I know he's sick, but there's a place where you draw the line, sick or not. And Earl has crossed that line imo. More than once.

Can't agree with this. Helmuth is the GOAT when it comes to being an asshole, and McEnroe said things that you just couldn't believe your ears. He should have been banned for life, but they were making too much money off of him. Too much is being made of this.
 
It's the crowds fault - It's not Earl's fault.
It's okay because he's Earl and everyone knows how he is.
It's a gambling match and anything goes.
Earl is colorful and great for pool.
Earl blah, blah, blah.

To all the above I say BULLSHIT! I'm not giving the guy a pass for behaving the way he is right now. I've seen McEnroe, Hellmuth, Fats and Bucktooth. None of them are anything like Earl, and not nearly as offensive to their opponents or the audience. In this respect Earl is in a class by himself, low class!

If this is the shot in the arm pool needs, I'll find another profession. I will quit this game before I see it turn into WWF or it's equivalent.

P.S. Yes, I know he's sick, but there's a place where you draw the line, sick or not. And Earl has crossed that line imo. More than once.

I agree; however, Shane took the match with Earl outright KNOWING Earl would go crazy during the match. Shane figured he'd flat-out rob Earl, crazy or not--- which is why the match got scheduled.

If crazy Earl were getting torched, we wouldn't even be discussing it.
 
I agree; however, Shane took the match with Earl outright KNOWING Earl would go crazy during the match. Shane figured he'd flat-out rob Earl, crazy or not--- which is why the match got scheduled.

If crazy Earl were getting torched, we wouldn't even be discussing it.

I have to disagree...I think it would still have been discussed...but more on the lighter side with people saying I can't believe Earl will try anything to win & people giving Shane props for not letting it get to him.
 
I agree; however, Shane took the match with Earl outright KNOWING Earl would go crazy during the match. Shane figured he'd flat-out rob Earl, crazy or not--- which is why the match got scheduled.

If crazy Earl were getting torched, we wouldn't even be discussing it.

Yes, as long as they could rob crazy old Earl, the complaining would be a lot less. But so far, Earl is not playing according to the script.
 
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I never said I was condoning his bad behavior. I DO think there was nothing wrong with his deaf comment, though. I just feel that Shane knew what he was getting into playing Earl. So did Mars. To expecdt anything less from
Earl, well, that's not really realistic, and bad planning on their part.

Should Earl handle himself better? Of course he should. Is he alone in the way he acts? Not by a mile. There are tons of people out there that do far worse than he does. He just happens to play a whole lot better than they do.

As far as it being streamed- that just shows just how bad pool is in this country. Just the fact that two of the "big boys" are going to match up makes headline news and the desire to stream it. The big boys should be matching up a whole lot more than they do. Streaming it doesn't change the fact that it is a gambling match, and what can go on in it. It only means that a lot of us can sweat it that otherwise wouldn't be able to. We, as the fans/spectators, have NO say in what happens or should happen there. It's all between the two contestants on what is and what is not allowed.

Heck, I've had guys stand right in front of me yelling "Miss it, miss it" when I'm trying to shoot. I've also been in "pro" tournaments where my opponent made sure he was standing right behind me on every shot and weaving back and forth. I never knew if he was going to snap and hit me from behind or not. Deal is, if you can't or won't play like that, then don't. But the "fans" have no say so in the match other than to choose whether to watch it or not.

As for Shane, he knew what he was getting into playing Earl. It's not his first rodeo. If it is bothering him to where it's affecting his play, then he knows what he needs to work on some more. And, it is a deficiency in his game that should NOT be there at his level of play. However, I seriously doubt that it's bothering him all that much.

As to Earl, of course he should act better. But, let's get a little realistic here. How many times has it been said that he is a few cards short of a full deck? Well, let's just assume that is true. Given that, why do so many expect an abnormal person to act normal?? Ever consider that acting normal is out of the norm for him with his mindset, and he's usually not even capable of it?? Sure, on meds he could probably be "normal". But, then his game would be normal too. What price would you be willing to pay to be as great at something as he is at pool? He apparently chose a little bit of insanity to be one of the best ever.
I hear what you saying but enough is enough with him...Years ago he was the poster child of what a pro pool player should be like..Him & almost all the old champions & road dogs came through our lil town Of Houma,la...It wasn't big on the map but it was big on every pool players map cuz we had a booming economy & people with more gamble than sense...some call em suckers...Some people change for the better the older they get & some change for the worst....he has taken the latter road.

As far as there are worst...Yea but the only way a player should even consider tolerating that kind of behavior is if you was playing a sucker & he had no shot to win anyway..but Earl is far from a sucker
 
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yes
but he pushes the buttons of people in the crowd.
i never see or hear the crowd go off on any other players.
why?
This year at Turning Stone I saw Earl make a great shot on a 2 ball and leave himself dead safe on the next ball. 3 people in the crowd, sitting at the table just beside the pool table applauded his shot. He turns to them with that look on his face and says, "Are you stupid?". Then gave them a few more choice words and "crowd stares".

Of course they don't have a clue what color ball came after the 2 ball, but the problem is Earl these are your fans. If you want have any left you should just learn to focus on your game.

Yes people will now push your buttons. Players and spectators alike. You have made that possible.

Just play your game, buy some earplugs and let's see what you have left in the tank. True fans of the game will always embrace sucess achieved from hard work. They will not tolerate these shenanagians over and over again.
 
Same reason people rubberneck a automobile accident

I somewhat agree with your statement of "enough is enough", however, people still flock to see him. Granted, most seem to be watching just to see him go on tilt, and thereby miss the fantastic play being done. But, if people don't like seeing it, why keep watching it?? Wouldn't THAT be a little abnormal?? To say they hate something, but keep doing it?? And keep on talking about it?? If people really didn't want to watch him, Justin never would have streamed it. ;) Now, as to his tournament play, well, that's a whole other "nut" to crack.

I would bet the crowd thats say 40 or older don't try to push his buttons..The younger the generation the more they don't respect thier elders ..hell life in general...There is still some great young people but i'm talking in whole...I know it's a 2 edged sword...I only gave my opinion on the ref thing because only other thing would be earning respect the old fashion way with a pop to the chops...People will always love to watch a trainwreck or head on car crash on the interstate...it is just human nature to some...Kinda why reality tv is so popular today...people want to see everyday people make fools of themselves.
 
In this respect Earl is in a class by himself, low class!

If this is the shot in the arm pool needs, I'll find another profession. I will quit this game before I see it turn into WWF or it's equivalent.

P.S. Yes, I know he's sick, but there's a place where you draw the line, sick or not. And Earl has crossed that line imo. More than once.

Nice post, Jay.

Without a referree present, as long as players are allowed to shark their opponents, pool will resemble the WWF where anything goes.

Sharking is just a polite word for cheating, especially when it is done to distract your opponent or cause them to be at a disadvantage. When Earl sharks his opponent, he is cheating. There's no other way to put it.
 
One other thing I'd like to point out- this is to all of you that are hating on Earl for his "deaf" comment--- Why is it SO bad for Earl to make a comment about being deaf, but it is perfectly alright for YOU to mock a crazy person for being crazy???? Expecting a crazy person to act normal is like expecting a deaf person to hear what you are saying.

They are both in the same catagory...classless is classless.

For the record I admire Earl's accomplishments he has made in his pool career & another for the record...The Earl of old can give the new Earl the 6 out n the pops on class
 
Yes, as long as they could rob crazy old Earl, the compaining would be a lot less. But so far, Earl is not playing according to the script.

Punter I respect your opinion and your comments. IMO Earl is (and maybe has been for quite some time) a 'savant.' Somewhat like Dustin Hoffman's character in Rainman, just another type of savant. Earl is a brilliant pool player who is unable (incapable) to socialize with other people in a normal way.

By the way, it was mentioned on here earlier about what should be acceptable behavior in gambling matches. In the action poolrooms of the 60's and 70's a player acting like Earl wouldn't have lasted fifteen minutes! You think John Mars was hard on Earl? Please! The tush hogs I knew wouldn't have said a word or given any warning at all. They gave their warnings after the guy was already on the floor.
 
Uh....... your'e hitting a little close to home here. Your dad spent a lot of years on the road. He may have been one of the "nicer" guys out there, but don't think for an instant that he NEVER sharked anyone!;) Don't use it for an excuse to hate on Earl when they ALL did it to some extent!

By the way, my dad did not spend a lot of years on the road playing pool...so be careful about jumping to conclusions just because my screen name reminds you of someone else. :cool:
 
Hmmm

The match is going on......

Lets take a break for a few hours on the hating/loving fest. And lets report the stats.

Earl is wearing full ear protection (think gun range)
 
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