Earl Strickland Salutes the Fans at the 2008 Mosconi Cup

[!Smorgass Bored]

A lot of people on here have NO clue about how marketing works.

Russ

Eddie Wheat do....

 

[jimmy-leggs]

Earl is deserving of much more respect from all pool fans. He has nothing to prove to anyone and his records speak volumes. His reaction, which is what it was, is due to some low life sheit stirring moron provoking him.
It is the fans that start the problems and then blame the players for reacting after being provoked. It is kind of like the fools that go to the zoo and provoke a wild animal and end up getting attacked, usually the animal pays the ultimate price!
Dan

Are you kidding me?People just did'nt wake up one day and think lets berrate Earl,Earl is the bad boy of pool,Lets pick on Earl.
He earned his reputation for the LACK of respect he has for his fellow competitors and the sport itself.

 

[BrooklynJay]

Caption Contest

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if you listen closely...you can actually hear earl losing his mind.​

best i could do. can you beat that?

 

[JAM]

This is my point. when the players were stand up and were trying to improve the sport the sport was doing much better.

I think you have been misinformed or may not have all of the facts from the history of American pool when it comes to organizations, ESPECIALLY in recent times.

 

[JAM]

...But now we have Earl and other plays that treat the game like crap, so the sport suffers....

Again, you're very misinformed. In fact, your opinion borders on outrageous.

The only people who treat the "game" like crap, if you want to call it a game, are people with opinions such as yourself, IMHO.

 

[JAM]

John S. lost a first round match at a tournimnt and decided to take off and play golf instead of sticking around to play out the other matches. If i was a sponsor of the event i'd want that guy around to play because i know people would be there to see players like John S.

So what? Nobody is paying John Schmidt's bills except John Schmidt. He was not getting an appearance fee to shoot in that tournament. What people don't seem to realize is that pool players, unlike other sports celebrities, don't have sponsors, agents, backers, or organizations. It's every man for himself when it comes to paying their own personal bills. Nobody out there is sponsoring pool, and the player has to pay their own costs for every single event.

Come compete for us, Pro Player, so we can watch you. Dance, monkey, dance! After it's all said and done, we can rip you apart as scum of the earth. Dance, monkey, dance. While you're at it, pay your own way to the dance, so we can condemn you live. What a pity you had to pay all your own expenses, the hotel, travel, and entry fee. Too bad you can't break even on expenses unless you come in first, second, or third. Dance, monkey, dance, you low-life bum without a job. Dance, monkey, dance.

Again, I can count on one hand how may American players have a sponsor and/or a fat stakehorse, and it's less than five.

Earl him self cheating a tv match playing Charlie W just a couple years back. His body was blocking the ref's view when Earl bump a ball with his stick or arm and they were playing foul on all balls. Charlie says it's ball in hand right, Earl hit the ball with this stick. The ref said i didn't see it and Earl says the ref didn't see it too bad for you.

Unlike the majority who cast their opinions about this particular incident, I happen to have been there, right there, up front and close, in person. Believe me when I say Earl had no idea he had committed a foul until well after this match. I saw him in the hallway and spoke to him about it. He was shocked that anybody thought it was a foul. He just didn't see it until he saw the TV re-broadcast.

And another thing, at that Skins Billiards tournament at the Atlantic City Resorts Hotel and Casino, each of the 16 competitors were warned in the players meeting that when the referee spoke, they were to obey. NOBODY and I mean NOBODY was to question a ruling, a rack, anything. That was expressed very strongly by Matt Braun. So, no matter what Earl thought, he was obeying Scott's ruling.

There is a big deal going on in snooker about players dumping just recently.

But it has not been proven yet, has it? Do you know something? Were you in on the so-called "dump"? That's the only way you can state for sure, with 100 percent confidence, that it was a dump.

The sport need respect from the players before it will get respect from sponsors and promoters.

Don't worry, my little chickadee, soon there won't be any more American pro players. Enjoy American professional pool while you've got it, so that you can ridicule and condemn the players themselves.

Professional pool is on the downslide, thanks to the unfounded and outrageous opinions of folks just like yourself. If you want to blame something or somebody for the downfall of professional pool in the United States, take a long, long, long look in the mirror.

 

[gunzby]

Earl is deserving of much more respect from all pool fans. He has nothing to prove to anyone and his records speak volumes. His reaction, which is what it was, is due to some low life sheit stirring moron provoking him.
It is the fans that start the problems and then blame the players for reacting after being provoked. It is kind of like the fools that go to the zoo and provoke a wild animal and end up getting attacked, usually the animal pays the ultimate price!
Dan

His records do speak volumes and it is his job and his alone to honor those records. People don't just who up to see if they can get a rise out of him....they show up because they know they can. The fans are incredibly unsportsmanlike, but Earl is also incredibly unprofessional and unsportsmanlike as well. Two wrongs will never make a right......I've double checked and there isn't an i, g, h or t no matter how many times I spell wrong.

On another note: Show me a lion that can play 9 ball and I will agree with that analogy.

 

[Jadssons]

So what? Nobody is paying John Schmidt's bills except John Schmidt. He was not getting an appearance fee to shoot in that tournament. What people don't seem to realize is that pool players, unlike other sports celebrities, don't have sponsors, agents, backers, or organizations. It's every man for himself when it comes to paying their own personal bills. Nobody out there is sponsoring pool, and the player has to pay their own costs for every single event.

Come compete for us, Pro Player, so we can watch you. Dance, monkey, dance! After it's all said and done, we can rip you apart as scum of the earth. Dance, monkey, dance. While you're at it, pay your own way to the dance, so we can condemn you live. What a pity you had to pay all your own expenses, the hotel, travel, and entry fee. Too bad you can't break even on expenses unless you come in first, second, or third. Dance, monkey, dance, you low-life bum without a job. Dance, monkey, dance.

Again, I can count on one hand how may American players have a sponsor and/or a fat stakehorse, and it's less than five.



Unlike the majority who cast their opinions about this particular incident, I happen to have been there, right there, up front and close, in person. Believe me when I say Earl had no idea he had committed a foul until well after this match. I saw him in the hallway and spoke to him about it. He was shocked that anybody thought it was a foul. He just didn't see it until he saw the TV re-broadcast.

And another thing, at that Skins Billiards tournament at the Atlantic City Resorts Hotel and Casino, each of the 16 competitors were warned in the players meeting that when the referee spoke, they were to obey. NOBODY and I mean NOBODY was to question a ruling, a rack, anything. That was expressed very strongly by Matt Braun. So, no matter what Earl thought, he was obeying Scott's ruling.



But it has not been proven yet, has it? Do you know something? Were you in on the so-called "dump"? That's the only way you can state for sure, with 100 percent confidence, that it was a dump.



Don't worry, my little chickadee, soon there won't be any more American pro players. Enjoy American professional pool while you've got it, so that you can ridicule and condemn the players themselves.

Professional pool is on the downslide, thanks to the unfounded and outrageous opinions of folks just like yourself. If you want to blame something or somebody for the downfall of professional pool in the United States, take a long, long, long look in the mirror.

Pointing the finger at everyone but who is directly involved...thats sad. Dumping DOES happen...100%. It even happened at the IPT events and that was supposed to be pool's savior. If the players want better tournaments, sponsors, respect, etc. they have to be willing to work hard and prove themselves to earn it. And, if playing pool doesn't pay the bills, then find a job that does.

 

[JAM]

His records do speak volumes and it is his job and his alone to honor those records. People don't just who up to see if they can get a rise out of him....they show up because they know they can. The fans are incredibly unsportsmanlike, but Earl is also incredibly unprofessional and unsportsmanlike as well. Two wrongs will never make a right......I've double checked and there isn't an i, g, h or t no matter how many times I spell wrong.

On another note: Show me a lion that can play 9 ball and I will agree with that analogy.

Earl is, indeed, an American legendary player. I truly hope with all my being that he finds another way to continue his life outside of pool. This is the most unrewarding sport that I have ever encountered. Pool is definitely cruel to its own.

BTW, my relatives, the great-great ones, all hailed from Hickory, North Carolina. They were Cherokee.

Just like the Native Americans, the American pro players are becoming extinct. What incentive is there for young people to get into the sport? None. Soon there won't be any more professional pool. We can all enjoy pool recreationally, on the league, at the neighborhood tavern, or in our basements.

 

[JAM]

Pointing the finger at everyone but who is directly involved...thats sad. Dumping DOES happen...100%. It even happened at the IPT events and that was supposed to be pool's savior. If the players want better tournaments, sponsors, respect, etc. they have to be willing to work hard and prove themselves to earn it. And, if playing pool doesn't pay the bills, then find a job that does.

Thanks for proving my point. I love it when the American pool culture shows their a-s-s.

 

[Jadssons]

Actually, I am pretty fortunate. I have a great job that allows me the comfort to do pretty much whatever I please. I worked hard with school and other jobs that prepared me and made some really good contacts along the way. I have never once thought that I "deserved" anything, I like to think I earned it instead. If I wasn't happy with where I'm at in my life, I would make the changes myself to better it...not sit back and say "I'm not successful because of him or her." One of life's more brutal lessons I guess.

 

[JAM]

Actually, I am pretty fortunate. I have a great job that allows me the comfort to do pretty much whatever I please. I worked hard with school and other jobs that prepared me and made some really good contacts along the way. I have never once thought that I "deserved" anything, I like to think I earned it instead. If I wasn't happy with where I'm at in my life, I would make the changes myself to better it...not sit back and say "I'm not successful because of him or her." One of life's more brutal lessons I guess.

But can you make three balls in a row?

Last time I checked, this was a pool forum.

FWIW, I've done okay with my career as well, but it doesn't have a damn thing to do with the industry of pool.

 

[Jadssons]

But can you make three balls in a row?

Last time I checked, this was a pool forum.

FWIW, I've done okay with my career as well, but it doesn't have a damn thing to do with the industry of pool.

**Sigh** good luck to you and yours.

 

[JAM]

**Sigh** good luck to you and yours.

Me and mine are just fine. **Sigh**

Linguistically speaking, your prose looks extremely familiar. Have you posted on this forum under a different identity in the past? I'm just curious.

 

[gunzby]

Earl is, indeed, an American legendary player. I truly hope with all my being that he finds another way to continue his life outside of pool. This is the most unrewarding sport that I have ever encountered. Pool is definitely cruel to its own.

BTW, my relatives, the great-great ones, all hailed from Hickory, North Carolina. They were Cherokee.

Just like the Native Americans, the American pro players are becoming extinct. What incentive is there for young people to get into the sport? None. Soon there won't be any more professional pool. We can all enjoy pool recreationally, on the league, at the neighborhood tavern, or in our basements.

He is no doubt a legendary player. I actually believe that he really has what it takes to come back to show people what he is really made of. He just needs to deal with his demons. I still believe that he has what it takes to be #1 in the world.

You are right about pool being an unrewarding sport so far as money is concerned. This game is about a love for the game and not much else. Funny how my two loves are pool and fishing....neither of which are rewarding so far as tournaments, expenses and sponsors are concerned (especially pro bass fishing. You'll need about $70k to make it through the first year.). I'd imagine that ESPN makes 100x the tourney cash out through advertising the televised tourneys.

American professional pool will come back. I actually just had an idea. Make a once a year tournament broadcast on ESPN which would be like the WSOP. Make it an open tourney with satellite tourneys throughout the country to qualify. In the final match have two tables set up with one table loaded down with a million or so.

Funny how you mention being Cherokee. My late grandmother is Cherokee.

 

[shinobi]

Unlike the majority who cast their opinions about this particular incident, I happen to have been there, right there, up front and close, in person. Believe me when I say Earl had no idea he had committed a foul until well after this match. I saw him in the hallway and spoke to him about it. He was shocked that anybody thought it was a foul. He just didn't see it until he saw the TV re-broadcast.

cbi1000 is correct. I have the DVD of this event and the footage is not ambiguous whatsoever. Earl fouls, he clearly knows he fouled, and he clearly states "The ref didn't see it" to Charlie.

As for whether or not he should have insisted that the referee call a foul, this is an old topic and it's already been discussed ad nauseum so no point in revisiting it.

In this case, your attendance at the event might have actually been a disadvantage. Seeing it on camera it was clear as day, and might not have been so in person.

 

[JAM]

...Funny how you mention being Cherokee. My late grandmother is Cherokee.

My relatives came from the Oconaluftee Mountains area. I have one black-and-white photograph of the whole family. Interestingly, my grandfather was full-blooded Cherokee. However, the children in the picture from others had blond hair, which I never understood.

I was told that many centuries ago, before Columbus, the Vikings came to this land and, I guess, mated with some Native Americans at that time. That is one myth that was told to me, and I'm not sure if I believe it or not.

Lots of great pool players started out in North Carolina. There's Wade Crane, Cliff Joyner, Hillbilly, Michael Coltrain, and Earl, just to name a few! :grin:

 

[JAM]

cbi1000 is correct. I have the DVD of this event and the footage is not ambiguous whatsoever. Earl fouls, he clearly knows he fouled, and he clearly states "The ref didn't see it" to Charlie.

As for whether or not he should have insisted that the referee call a foul, this is an old topic and it's already been discussed ad nauseum so no point in revisiting it.

In this case, your attendance at the event might have actually been a disadvantage. Seeing it on camera it was clear as day, and might not have been so in person.

I stand by my opinion based on what I saw when I attended this event.

Again, Earl complied with the referee's instructions, as he was supposed to.

Earl had no idea it was a foul until well after the event.

If Earl replied to Charlie Williams, it was in response to whatever Charlie said.

Again, Earl complied with the referee's instructions, as he was supposed to.

 

[hilla_hilla]

Earl ROCKS!

 

[Russ Chewning]

But can you make three balls in a row?

Last time I checked, this was a pool forum.

Would that be "three FOOKIN' balls"?



Sorry..Had a Fast Larry flashback there.

Russ