Earl Strickland

[Bishop]

Come on, Bishop! Not everybody utilizes proper g-r-a-m-m-a-r and E-n-g-l-i-s-h when posting.

What a shame it is that Earl Strickland does not post. He is a member of this forum, if memory serves me right!

JAM

lol the irony. Just so you know Nike's don't taste too bad.

Then again I never said I was representing a professional pool players thoughts and emotions.

 

[shinobi]

Earl's behaviour is strange, no doubt. What's unfortunate is that our fragmented sport doesn't have any sanctions or punishments that effectively keep it in check. There aren't any consequences for his behaviour, and he seems to be getting worse, not better.

 

[cueball1950]

Like i also have said in the past... This incident that they are talking about with Earl was against Charlie Williams. Yet when Charlie Williams does it and get caught by the audience it is a different story. Ask Ian Costello. He played Charlie at a Joss Tour Event at Classic billiards in Rochester NY and when he bent over to play a shot he accidently moved a ball about 4 inches and he knew it and kept on shooting. When confronted by somebody in the audience about it later he more or less said the same thing about neither Ian or the TD seeing it.. so what goes around comes around..Just shows me that everybody does it, not just Earl......mike

 

[Stones]

You mean Earl likes the way the old Meucci's hit with all that WHIP?

Good look to Earl finding a cue that has the right hit for him. The best way to get one is to have the cue-maker make Earl's cue, customize it to his stroke. And I'd imagine there'd be quite a few of 'em who would be honored to create the perfect cue for Earl Strickland.

JAM

Did you mean "there'd be quite a few of 'em who would be honored for Earl to smash their cues."?

Honestly, just kidding. Really! LOL

 

[Fleece3]

I quite simply can't understand how anyone can be a fan of this idiot. He has been and continues to be a black eye on the sport and because of guys like him pool will always be small time. The only way for pool to advance and reach the next step with the masses is to rid the sport of those like Strickland who continue to embarrass the sport. If Tennis players and Golfers can make millions, why can't pool players? Think about it.

Pool players can't make millions partially because of the gambling (action) aspect of the sport. Go on any tennis or golf forum and look at the discussion of a major tournament, do you see a single post re "ACTION"? Now go to th DCC forum here, how many of the posts talk about "action" after hours? I understand the history of gambling and pool. However, if pool is ever to become mainstream, gambling MUST become HISTORY. Think about it..if you were the CEO of lets say....Mercedes Benz, would you want your product associated with a sport that lives on late night illegal gambling? Complete with titles like backers, stakehorses, enforcers etc....and we have all heard horror stories of what happens when someone can't or won't pay.

That image of pool must be dropped BEFORE we can have ANY hope of pool getting the PRIZE money it deserves. Maybe then the amount of the purses will not depend on the player turnout. The tennis US Open's prize money is not based on collecting players entrances fees.

And I am not talking about bet begin placed ON a certain outcome. That happens on every sport. I am talking about the PLAYERS gambling.

 

[cdavis9771]

You mean Earl likes the way the old Meucci's hit with all that WHIP?

Good look to Earl finding a cue that has the right hit for him. The best way to get one is to have the cue-maker make Earl's cue, customize it to his stroke. And I'd imagine there'd be quite a few of 'em who would be honored to create the perfect cue for Earl Strickland.

JAM

I have one of EArls joss cues from 1985. He told me at the 05' open that he had won a tourney with it. The shafts are slightly smaller than the standard 13mm. I haven't measured but it feels like around a 12.25 or .50maybe? Seems he likes a little more flex in his shafts.

 

[tigerallenyim]

I have seen Johnny Archer foul and just kept shooting cause no one called it.

Yep. Even leagues, its been known that some captains will tell their players that if a foul were to occur, and the opponent/ref does not claim that foul, don't offer it to them. Although i find it cheating (but that's just a personal opinion), i can see why some people do it. It's not the shooter's job to watch the table for both people. And if the TD/ref is there, well.... that's what they are there for. And yeah i've seen Earl foul on an old match on ESPN. But Earl made the point very clear that the TD/ref did not point it out/see it.

 

[cdavis9771]

Yep. Even leagues, its been known that some captains will tell their players that if a foul were to occur, and the opponent/ref does not claim that foul, don't offer it to them. Although i find it cheating (but that's just a personal opinion), i can see why some people do it. It's not the shooter's job to watch the table for both people. And if the TD/ref is there, well.... that's what they are there for. And yeah i've seen Earl foul on an old match on ESPN. But Earl made the point very clear that the TD/ref did not point it out/see it.

I saw the same one and totally agree. Just one other question if you know. Can the opposing player call the foul in professional billiards?

 

[tigerallenyim]

I saw the same one and totally agree. Just one other question if you know. Can the opposing player call the foul in professional billiards?

Good question.
I believe the opposing player can call a foul, but I believe that the TD/ref is the one who makes the final judgement.

I don't if that is the correct answer, but after watching many of the episodes on T.V. and also participating in regionals where they have TD's/refs, I can ONLY ASSUME that the final call can be made only by the ref/TD.

Earl Strickland's reaction thought process was purty quick and good when the other opponent made a comment on the foul, but Earl quickly retorted in saying something to the effect that it did not matter since the ref did not see it, nor did the ref call it a foul.

 

[cdavis9771]

Good question.
I believe the opposing player can call a foul, but I believe that the TD/ref is the one who makes the final judgement.

I don't if that is the correct answer, but after watching many of the episodes on T.V. and also participating in regionals where they have TD's/refs, I can ONLY ASSUME that the final call can be made only by the ref/TD.

Earl Strickland's reaction thought process was purty quick and good when the other opponent made a comment on the foul, but Earl quickly retorted in saying something to the effect that it did not matter since the ref did not see it, nor did the ref call it a foul.

Oh really? What events have you played? As for earls response to the ref not catching the foul well i guess the call went to him right?

 

[tigerallenyim]

Oh really? What events have you played? As for earls response to the ref not catching the foul well i guess the call went to him right?

Uhhh... no. Not events, regionals. I'd get my a** handed to me.

Yep the call went to Earl. Which sucked for the opponent. I think he was playing the Dragon (if my memory serves me correct) and the Dragon in the end won.

 

[smokeandapancak]

If the sport has some national exposure and real governing body behind it, then Earl would be a household name...for good or bad. Look at Ronnie and snooker.. the guy has some problems and has pulled a few "Earls" in his time..one very recently... but the people over here LOVE this guy.. hell I am even a fan.. The reason being is that snooker gets the air time and casual people watch just to see what Ronnie is going to do next..Most people dont want to watch two guys just shoot, sit, shoot, sit, shoot, win, go home. Students of the game enjoy it ...but we arent the group that needs to hooked in... It takes some "personality" to hook people and grow the sport.... heros and villians...faces and heels.....
Sadly for Earl, the game is followed by a small group of mostly conservative tradationilst who veiw his antics as a disgrace..... in a different part of the world he would be an icon to alot of people.. at the very least he would be well known...still digraceful to some.. but famous none the less

Shane
sorry for the long wind

 

[smurf]

I don't understand the constant chatter about Earl. It seems as though there's a simple solution to this problem. If you like to watch Earl play,then watch him!!! If you hate Earl and can't stand to watch him, then don't watch him!!! Or change the channel!!! Maybe someone can explain what they believe their whining about Earl will accomplish. Maybe we should worry more about our own oddities....

 

[4ball]

Look at Ronnie and snooker.. the guy has some problems and has pulled a few "Earls" in his time..one very recently...

Yes, Ronnie's walk-out from the quarterfinal match with Stephen Hendry was certainly disappointing. It should not have happened. However, Earl's behavior sadly goes beyond an occasional letdown. I admit I think that Earl is a very skilled player and some of his shots are truly fantastic. It's his unsportsmanlike behavior that sometimes gets belligerent towards his opponents and audience that doesn't belong into the professional poolroom. It has nothing to do with players having their own "personality". Earl needs to learn how to be respectful to others.

 

[jay helfert]

Earl Strickland is a study in contradictions. On the one hand, the greatest tournament 9-Ball player ever. On the other hand, guilty of some of the most outrageous conduct by any professional athlete in ANY sport, let alone billiards. At the same time, he can be quite gracious and effusive to fans when they encounter him away from the table.

Who is the real Earl? I suspect he is all of the above. A genius and a madman. A savant at Pool, and a fool as well. That is what makes him such an interesting case study. We never know who will appear today. Will it be dramatic performance art or a train wreck of disgraceful behavior?

My personal belief is that Earl should be in intensive therapy with suitable medication. Whether or not he has availed himself of these remedies I do not know. Like NYC Cue Dude, I could not in conscience invite Earl to any pool event anymore. It is too uncertain as to what could happen. That is a risk most promoters are unwilling to take.

You may not like my response (and neither will Earl), but there is nothing I have said here, that I would not say to his face.

 

[JAM]

Edited: I found the answer.

JAM

 

[Eydie Romano]

I speak with Earl on a daily basis and let him know what i run across and ask his opinions,sometimes he ask me to convey his feelings but most of the time i post what i know about him.And when i spoke with him today he told me that he wanted to start doing exhibitions and personal lessons again.Earl would like to open himself up back to the public in an environment besides competing where you are more at ease and relaxed.Earl will also be playing with a diffrent cue a wooden cue and no not a Cuetec.Earl will be experimenting with other cue lines to see what brand fits him the most and the one that will play true to his game as once the Meucci did.

This is coming From The Strickland camp, Just a FYI all.

Elizabeth is Earl's X (as in has been) wife Lisa aka Elizabeth Moss. It's NOT Earl. When Earl posts, a lot of the time I do the editing and posting for him, so I assure you that is NOT Earl. This is the same thorn in his side, who continues to do as such. Take what Elizabeth says with a grain of salt.

 

[StevenPWaldon]

Good to know. Thanks!

This is coming From The Strickland camp, Just a FYI all.

Elizabeth is Earl's X (as in has been) wife Lisa aka Elizabeth Moss. It's NOT Earl. When Earl posts, a lot of the time I do the editing and posting for him, so I assure you that is NOT Earl. This is the same thorn in his side, who continues to do as such. Take what Elizabeth says with a grain of salt.

 

[Adanac67]

And who should that list of players be?You seem to be the expert. What are the past and present tv ratings on your picks?

There are no ratings for pool because they are so low. How sad.

Anyone who has ever distracted his opponent in any way should never be allowed on TV. I watch and play pool for the pool; not to watch some asshole shark his opponent because he can't win with his cue! If I as a pool player can't stand seeing that garbage, who else amonst John Q Public thinks the same way and turns it off for good? Apparently quite a few.

 

[Adanac67]

You nailed it!

Earl's behaviour is strange, no doubt. What's unfortunate is that our fragmented sport doesn't have any sanctions or punishments that effectively keep it in check. There aren't any consequences for his behaviour, and he seems to be getting worse, not better.

This is exactly whats happening with this idiot and others of his ilk. There are no fines or suspensions for bad behaviour thus pool looks like a joke to any Joe Average watching at home.

If you shark your opponent, loss of game. If you do it again, loss of match. If you are stupid enough to do it a third time, BANNED!! This is the only way to stop all of the garbage.