Amen! Ride On!
Earl walked out @ GCCS
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Amen! Ride On!
You are correct... Corey Duel won his first major tournament via forfeit by Earl in the finals of the Camel tournament at Romines High Pockets(Milwaukee) in 1999. Earl was angry because Corey was using the soft break.
my only problem with earl is when he starts putting down his opponents, i was playin next to him recently at an event and he was loudly goin on and on basically saying his opponent didnt deserve to be on the same table as him etc
NO ONE is bigger than the game and everyone deserves respect and I dont think earl thinks that, at least his actions dont dictate it from what Ive seen
NO ONE is bigger than the game and everyone deserves respect and I dont think earl thinks that, at least his actions dont dictate it from what Ive seen
Say whatever you want to about Earl the fact is that he is completely a jerk most of the time when he plays. He knows better. He gave a long speech when he won the Camel Tour one year basically saying that people should disregard his behaviour in tournaments because he is just in the heat of the moment and doesn't mean it.
Earl Strickland is one of the reasons I got hooked on pool. I wanted to be him, wanted to break like him, stroke like him, make fearless shots from everywhere like him. The closest I got was acting like a jerk when I played like him.
I remember very clearly watching Earl playing a Japanese player in the US Open and just making one demeaning comment after another about foreign players and about fans who support them, etc.... It was at that moment that my hero worship of Earl Strickland wore off.
He is pool's McEnroe. Nothing Earl ever does short of murder will take away what he has accomplished in the game. He will continue to be thought of as a great player and once in while he will have a flashback and snap off another event. But for us fans that have been around his name will always have that asterisk next to it. Where we say "wow that guy was great but what a jerk".
The thing that pissed me off is when he completely disrespected CueTec after they sponsored him for 17 years through all of the outbursts and the embarassments.
He said that Cuetec ruined his game. Even though he won three World Championships and Five US Opens while playing with Cuetec. Well honestly I don't know how many he won during the time with Cuetec but it was a lot.
Really grateful and classy way to thank the people that PAID YOU WELL for 17 years and who stuck by you and helped you out personally many times.
I will always enjoy watching Earl play and hope he hits a high gear. Watching him disintegrate though is really painful. They say that with great talent often comes mental instability. In Earl's case that is obviously true.
Earl if you read this it isn't anything you haven't seen before. I am sure it rolls off your back like water off a duck's. Just know that you still have a fan here who doesn't agree with much of what you do but he still enjoys watching you play when you hit that high gear.
Just remember that the person you are playing probably idolized you like I did. Don't go out of your way to make them hate you.
Earl Strickland is one of the reasons I got hooked on pool. I wanted to be him, wanted to break like him, stroke like him, make fearless shots from everywhere like him. The closest I got was acting like a jerk when I played like him.
I remember very clearly watching Earl playing a Japanese player in the US Open and just making one demeaning comment after another about foreign players and about fans who support them, etc.... It was at that moment that my hero worship of Earl Strickland wore off.
He is pool's McEnroe. Nothing Earl ever does short of murder will take away what he has accomplished in the game. He will continue to be thought of as a great player and once in while he will have a flashback and snap off another event. But for us fans that have been around his name will always have that asterisk next to it. Where we say "wow that guy was great but what a jerk".
The thing that pissed me off is when he completely disrespected CueTec after they sponsored him for 17 years through all of the outbursts and the embarassments.
He said that Cuetec ruined his game. Even though he won three World Championships and Five US Opens while playing with Cuetec. Well honestly I don't know how many he won during the time with Cuetec but it was a lot.
Really grateful and classy way to thank the people that PAID YOU WELL for 17 years and who stuck by you and helped you out personally many times.
I will always enjoy watching Earl play and hope he hits a high gear. Watching him disintegrate though is really painful. They say that with great talent often comes mental instability. In Earl's case that is obviously true.
Earl if you read this it isn't anything you haven't seen before. I am sure it rolls off your back like water off a duck's. Just know that you still have a fan here who doesn't agree with much of what you do but he still enjoys watching you play when you hit that high gear.
Just remember that the person you are playing probably idolized you like I did. Don't go out of your way to make them hate you.
I haven't been playing pool for very long at all so I've not seen or heard very much of anything... When I saw Earl's "antics" for the first time at a european event filmed in 2003 I was kind of ashamed that this man was representing our country... His antics just seemed absurd to the fullest extent of the meaning. In the world of Kendo he'd have been removed from the sport decades ago... Respect and honor is as important as stroke and form in my book.
Glendale
Banned
I like Earl too. I think people have him misunderstood. He should seek some sort of mental help though. That isn't a knock on him...I just think he'd benefit from it and not be so bi-polar.
I've seen this before, too...
I was at a Reno Open Tournament once when Earl was playing Dan Louie, one of the nice guys in pro pool, and a very good shooter too. Earl definitely did not show respect to his opponent, after missing a shot, he said, "if I keep this up, you might even beat me." He said it in a way that was demeaning, and implied Dan Louie was not even in his league, which was irrelevant; I just lost some respect for Earl then, and it just got worse from there.
I was at a Reno Open Tournament once when Earl was playing Dan Louie, one of the nice guys in pro pool, and a very good shooter too. Earl definitely did not show respect to his opponent, after missing a shot, he said, "if I keep this up, you might even beat me." He said it in a way that was demeaning, and implied Dan Louie was not even in his league, which was irrelevant; I just lost some respect for Earl then, and it just got worse from there.
I saw that match also and he was down 6 to 4 and just quit, the person was shoting at the 8 balll and Earl just got up and walked out the poolroom got in his car a left.
It's kind of sad he still has a great game he makes it look all so easy , A man said one day people would sell there soul to have just some of his skills .
To bad
TheWhiteEwok
Registered
I was there ... Playing my match while watching Earls ... this is what I saw ...
whomever his opponent was (Saturday Morning) ... was playing not only well, but was out thinking Earl. I saw at least 2 times when the opponent took a break and went to the restroom ... this breaking of stride drove Earl freaking nuts ...
smart move by the opponent.
I'm a newb, so I don't have the luxury of you old school players to be able to say "If you could have seen him play in the 80's ..." etc etc ... but I have seen the man twice and both times have been disgusting shows of social grace.
Don't care who you are ... a D-Bag is still a D-Bag ... even if he is amazing at what he does.
If he is still "The best pool player in the world" How did he get ran down twice? (Not saying people don't lose, but JA pwned' everybody, so did Nevel, Stevie, and Putnam)
No my friends - you have to earn respect and then work to keep it ... Earl stopped working years ago it appears
Great tournament, great players, great people, great C&C show!
whomever his opponent was (Saturday Morning) ... was playing not only well, but was out thinking Earl. I saw at least 2 times when the opponent took a break and went to the restroom ... this breaking of stride drove Earl freaking nuts ...
smart move by the opponent.
I'm a newb, so I don't have the luxury of you old school players to be able to say "If you could have seen him play in the 80's ..." etc etc ... but I have seen the man twice and both times have been disgusting shows of social grace.
Don't care who you are ... a D-Bag is still a D-Bag ... even if he is amazing at what he does.
If he is still "The best pool player in the world" How did he get ran down twice? (Not saying people don't lose, but JA pwned' everybody, so did Nevel, Stevie, and Putnam)
No my friends - you have to earn respect and then work to keep it ... Earl stopped working years ago it appears
Great tournament, great players, great people, great C&C show!
I agree with 99% of what you are saying here, except for the Cuetec business. I'm not sure exactly how the separation happened or what caused it, but Earl Strickland owes absolutely NOTHING to Cuetec cues in terms of respect or anything else. Before Earl Strickland, Cuetec was absolutely nothing and would have continued to be that way until he brought them along. They have some smart marketing people over there and jumped on the Earl bandwagon at the right time... but they owe it all to Earl and that's a fact.
Let's give credit to where credit is due
Da Bank,
And I agree with 99% of what you posted. The other 1% being that Allison can also be credited with some of CueTec's sales.
Travis Trotter also probably had something to do with CueTec being on the Nasdaq 500 for as long as it was, but that's another thread for another day.....
Da Bank,
And I agree with 99% of what you posted. The other 1% being that Allison can also be credited with some of CueTec's sales.
Travis Trotter also probably had something to do with CueTec being on the Nasdaq 500 for as long as it was, but that's another thread for another day.....
He's not easy to like these days, but I think his antics torment himself as much as his fans.
Not making excuses for poor behavior but your equating Earl's conceding the game by raking the balls with his cue to basketball players hurling basketballs into the crowd is OVER THE TOP AND UNCALLED FOR.
I was there on the one yard line when the controversy occured. I have to admit that I didn't hear every single word that both of them said but I genuinely believe that Earl raked the balls because he knew he was out of line and that he didn't deserve to win because he made a mistake.
For the record, EARL had a shot at the one ball. I saw it clear as day. He could EASILY hit the one ball. He could have easily continued the match but I think he knew in his heart of hearts that he made a mistake earlier and that he conceded the match because of his behavior.
I really wish Earl would listen to me about his game and his behavior. I think I know something about his problems. While I'm a fan of his, I I wouldn't lie to him and I could tell him things that might make him a better player and who knows he might even become a better man. Maybe it would help me too.
JoeyA
Really? Is that really what you think? You don't think that Cuetec sponsoring the Women's Professional Tour steadily for the same time period, sponsoring the APA, doing constant commercials, consistent advertisement in all the major mags, and a 10 person sales team at J-S Sales pushing them to dealers had anything to do with their success?
It's all Earl huh?
I guess it's easy to forget that they have sponsored Allison Fisher in the same period of time and that Allision has been on television more than any other single player in the history of the game. BY A LONG SHOT. If Allison and Earl go out to eat then Allison gets mobbed for autograpghs an no one asks Earl for one.
Allision has also consistently done clinics and had a booth at the APA Nationals where she meets and greets thousands of fans yearly. All done with the Cuetec logo on and she sells and gives away Cuetec cues.
Allison runs her own website where she sells signed Cuetec cues.
So IF one is going to say that an individual BUILT Cuetec then Allison certainly deserves WAY more credit than Earl.
I didn't tell this story earlier but this seems to the be the right time for it.
Several years ago I was at the BCA/VNEA doing laser engraving on people's cues. A guy came up to me with a Cuetec with Earl's signature on it (a decal). The guy asks me if I can laser over the signature because he doesn't want "that asshole's" name on his cue. Does this sound like an example of Earl being responsible for "building" Cuetec?
I wonder how many people formed a negative opinion of Cuetec for their continued sponsorship of Earl despite the outbursts and complete lack of professionalism and respect for his fellow competitors?
But aside from all that Earl Strickland DOES owe a debt of gratitude to a sponsor that employed him for 17 years. Those types of sponsors are hard to come by in any industry and especially in the billiard industry. If I were a sponsor and looking for a player then I CERTAINLY would scratch Earl Strickland OFF my list for NOTHING ELSE than the fact that he brutally disrespected his last sponsor after they supported him for 17 years. A professional is gracious and thankful for the relationship and looks forward to new relationships.
Cuetec built Cuetec. The sponsored the right people at the right time and stuck with it. Earl would STILL be on Cuetec's payroll if he would have taken care of business and stopped becoming an embarrassment at every tournament.
You nailed it right on the head !
I played Earl a couple days ago for the first time. He was on his game pretty well during our match and he got a few very nice rolls leading to his victory fair and square. We had fun the crowd had fun and it was a great match. We talked the whole time mostly to each other about pool we talked while we played we even talked to each other while the other person played.
We had good laughs the crowd had good laughs. Fun was had by all. I hope that I draw him first at every tourney cause if I can best Earl while he is playing like he played against me a few days ago with a smile running out from anywhere. If I could do that then I could best any player. Very glad I got to see him play so well.
We had good laughs the crowd had good laughs. Fun was had by all. I hope that I draw him first at every tourney cause if I can best Earl while he is playing like he played against me a few days ago with a smile running out from anywhere. If I could do that then I could best any player. Very glad I got to see him play so well.
Earl needs help
I feel real sorry for Earl because he can't committ the extreme
practice routine it would take to be able to compete with today's top players so he should seriously consider retirement. Everyone knows he was one of the greatest nine ball players ever and that should pacify him and he should look to give back to the game in some way, not degrade it. Kim Davenport should have whipped his ass for not finishing his match, I'm sure some poor fool put out thousands of dollars to buy Earl in the calcutta and didn't get the opportunity afforded to those who bought the other players. I'm a very high strung guy like Earl, but I've never degraded an opponent or failed to finish a match and I think Earl should be barred from tournament play for a year or so and he should try taking some
antidepressant medications to help him with his problem.
I feel real sorry for Earl because he can't committ the extremepractice routine it would take to be able to compete with today's top players so he should seriously consider retirement. Everyone knows he was one of the greatest nine ball players ever and that should pacify him and he should look to give back to the game in some way, not degrade it. Kim Davenport should have whipped his ass for not finishing his match, I'm sure some poor fool put out thousands of dollars to buy Earl in the calcutta and didn't get the opportunity afforded to those who bought the other players. I'm a very high strung guy like Earl, but I've never degraded an opponent or failed to finish a match and I think Earl should be barred from tournament play for a year or so and he should try taking some
antidepressant medications to help him with his problem.
I never try to bash anyone on here i look at everyone like friends but Earl is a mental case i was at the tournament and he showed his a**. Even during the tournament when he wasnt playing he was just an idiot. I think Earl needs a serious mental evluation.
