I am all for eliminating the side pockets. I can't make a ball in em...except the cue ball.
Earl's argument for no side pockets
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Yeah, you can take them off Valley's, I rarely ever shoot a ball in the side pocket on a Valley unless it's a hanger or someone has a gun to my head
So next time I lose a match, my new excuse will be, those darn side pockets. If they weren't there I totally would have crushed this guy.
He'd probably welcome it with both arms if they included the jump cue among the banned items.
Yes it would attract the Honey Boo Boo fans I supposed.
Really, he has been in the game for around 30 years and you could not find one person in 10,000 who could tell you who he is. Unlike say a Tiger Woods, nothing about the sport in any way would be different whether he exists or not.
quote of the month so far. very funny
(two shot shoot out) would be a huge step in the right direction.
There is a method to his madness.
With the rules used today the game's simply to easy and the strategy and entertainment value has been drastically reduced.
Playing "TWO FOUL" (two shot shoot out) would be a huge step in the right direction....however, there's no one really wanting to go in the right direction that has any say so.......until the game gets TV exposure we're all stuck with what we have now......and it's a sad, diluted version of what it could be. 'The Game is the Teacher'
There is a method to his madness.
With the rules used today the game's simply to easy and the strategy and entertainment value has been drastically reduced.
Playing "TWO FOUL" (two shot shoot out) would be a huge step in the right direction....however, there's no one really wanting to go in the right direction that has any say so.......until the game gets TV exposure we're all stuck with what we have now......and it's a sad, diluted version of what it could be. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Jeanette Lee is the most well known pool player
Actually Jeanette Lee is the most well known pool player {at this time} with the general public.
Actually Jeanette Lee is the most well known pool player {at this time} with the general public.
She also is active in charities which I see as a vital role in developing pool's PR
Quite honestly the only people that would pay to watch a pool match aren't the ones that Jeanette is targeting. The general public watches the greatest games on TV, not the internet.....and it's free, also going out to the majority of social businesses (bars, sports cafes, etc). I think it's fine to broadcast over the internet, and there's only about 600 people that follow (from my info regarding past PPV numbers).
Jeanette Lee has put pool in front of more people than Earl and Shane put together through her TV, magazine, and internet presence. She also is active in charities which I see as a vital role in developing pool's PR reputation and notoriety.
Quite honestly the only people that would pay to watch a pool match aren't the ones that Jeanette is targeting. The general public watches the greatest games on TV, not the internet.....and it's free, also going out to the majority of social businesses (bars, sports cafes, etc). I think it's fine to broadcast over the internet, and there's only about 600 people that follow (from my info regarding past PPV numbers).
Jeanette Lee has put pool in front of more people than Earl and Shane put together through her TV, magazine, and internet presence. She also is active in charities which I see as a vital role in developing pool's PR reputation and notoriety.
i think earl's performance last year at the MC was good.
I am talking about the general public. Asking people who already know him if they know who he is doesn't make much sense.
Actually the name that will come up the most will be Fats along with Mosconi and Hoppe who most think is a pool player. Earls antics don't add anything to the game. They just embassies him due to his lack of self control. If you have ever seen his act in person you may have a different opinion.
I have seen him so abusive to paying customers they wanted hit him. I saw him losing once to a local and he actually began to be verbally abusive to the guys elderly parents because they were applauding their son.
He then began saying to the guy he was playing "You are the greatest player I have ever seen" when the guy would run out along with other abusive comments. The be began racking in the balls when he didn't get out not letting the guy shoot, forfeiting the game. The audience were not entertained by what he was doing they just sat there nervously watching as he went crazy.
He finally forfeited the match with the score around 9 to 6 in a race to 11 after missing a ball and left not coming back and forfeiting his second match. Believe me no one missed him. Crazy is not really funny, it just makes people uncomfortable. This by the way was around the mid 80's. This stuff is nothing new he has been doing it for a long time.
I agree there can be some rule changes, but 2 foul where players will refuse to ever take a shot is not the answer. They will just push out then play safe then push out then play safe etc. It will make it a worse game to watch then one pocket.
One change that could be made is the elimination of BIH. I am not suggesting what else to do, but BIH in championship play is kind of nuts.
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With top players most any foul with BIH represents a loss of game. That is ridiculous. Years ago in the south they played neither BIH or 2 foul.
They played if you didn't make a good hit the incoming player could make you shoot again . You can make the guy keep shooting till you like the shot or he makes a good hit. I guess technically this is a form of push out just without the ball in hand.
The real value of push out is you don't have to worry about a guy getting lucky with missing and leaving you safe. If you are hookrd you can push. For like the first 25 years I played pool it was all push out.
I actually hate one foul and would much rather play 2 foul but it is not as good a spectator game as you can get pretty conservative and not want to take tough shots. It also gave you more freedom in running out. If you got yourself in trouble you push out. I think 2 foul makes for a more honest outcome it eliminates a lot of the luck in 9 ball. Primarily the luck of a tough leave after an out and out miss.
A would say any player who has never played 2 foul after just one evening of playing it would not want to go back to 1 foul. There is such a sense of control in the game, it is very relaxing not to be sweating bad leaves and luck.
A pretty good way to play that would kind of split the difference would be, the incoming player can push if he is left safe, but if he hooks himself while running out he has to make a good hit or give up BIH. That would prevent a lot of the cheap safeties played trying to get BIH, you know the kind I am talking about..
There are ways to fix the current rules and nothing to prevent any promoter from trying different things. Grady used to do it. He liked making up his own rules.
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This might be a fun thread to follow.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2345914/Can-you-help-me-settle-an-argument/?pc=6
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/thread/2345914/Can-you-help-me-settle-an-argument/?pc=6
The fact that a player is allowed to push in the middle of a run is probably the only major turn off for me with 2F9B. A lot of people think it's "cowardly" when a player (playing one foul) can run out and then play a safety. I fail to see how running out and then playing a push is any different.
A simple change like you're suggesting would probably make it more accepting by players that only prefer one foul. You can only push when it's your first shot at the table (unless you're opponent just pushed), but once you make a ball, then you can't push until your next inning at the table.
Did you see this thread Biebs?
Apparently you are not the only young fan of Karen Corr.
Yes, but she has advantages that Shane simply lacks.
