Easier To Make Most Shots With Draw?

Johnnyt

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Anytime I get to use draw on a shot, I feel like my % goes up to make it. Is there a reason for this or is it just me feeling it does. Johnnyt
 
I feel the same way. It doesn't make any sense, except that maybe it's easier to aim with the tip below center rather than above, i.e. the cue is out of my vision line.
 
Anytime I get to use draw on a shot, I feel like my % goes up to make it. Is there a reason for this or is it just me feeling it does. Johnnyt

I would think its mostly your comfort level.

Isn't center-ball supposed to me more accurate?
 
I would think its mostly your comfort level.

Isn't center-ball supposed to me more accurate?

I just posted something similar in another thread. When center ball is referred to, almost all the time it means the vertical center axis. Not dead center of the cb.
Rarely is the dead center of the cb utilized.
 
I feel the same way. It doesn't make any sense, except that maybe it's easier to aim with the tip below center rather than above, i.e. the cue is out of my vision line.

I think this is the main reason. Many years ago, I used mainly draw on shots also. Not really sure why, just something that happened for some reason. I learned to control draw better than follow, so that is what I used the most of.
 
Interesting, I do not have that experience. No problem with a slight draw but my accuracy suffers with a significant draw. My favorite shot is just a touch of follow so it has a natural roll and this how I feel I'm most accurate.
 
Interesting, I do not have that experience. No problem with a slight draw but my accuracy suffers with a significant draw. My favorite shot is just a touch of follow so it has a natural roll and this how I feel I'm most accurate.

Many lose accuracy with a longer draw. Usually, this is from tightening of the grip hand to achieve more power. That muscle tightening can easily cause the cue to go off line a little. Try keeping the same grip pressure you use on the softer draw shots and see what happens.
 
Many lose accuracy with a longer draw. Usually, this is from tightening of the grip hand to achieve more power. That muscle tightening can easily cause the cue to go off line a little. Try keeping the same grip pressure you use on the softer draw shots and see what happens.

Good tip, thanks! I don't doybt that my grip pressure is a problem, I'll keep that in mind next time I'm at the table.
 
Higher Accuracy with Draw

I think the most consistent shot is a stun. I think when one hits a draw or top it's easier to spin thus throwing the shot off line. However, I know with me that tend to shot too quickly when "all" I'm doing is a stun, so I concentrate better when I hit a draw cause there's more going on.
 
Stun magnifies throw

I think the most consistent shot is a stun. I think when one hits a draw or top it's easier to spin thus throwing the shot off line. However, I know with me that tend to shot too quickly when "all" I'm doing is a stun, so I concentrate better when I hit a draw cause there's more going on.

I can't find the video now but I believe Dr. Dave did a video and showed that hitting an object ball with a stunned cue magnifies cut induced throw and can lead to a loss of accuracy.
 
I can't find the video now but I believe Dr. Dave did a video and showed that hitting an object ball with a stunned cue magnifies cut induced throw and can lead to a loss of accuracy.

At slower speeds, yes, it does. However, it also depends on what you mean by accuracy. It won't change where you hit the cb or ob, but will change where the ob goes.
 
Right, wrong or not I'm a draw fan and probably use it on more shots than anything else. Combined with english/or not it is a major weapon. :thumbup:
 
I definitely mentally feel I have more control over where the object ball is going to go if I shoot with draw. The biggest problem is I have a tendancy to over stroke and the cue ball goes a couple rails and scratches. The sick part is, everyone and myself go "where did that come from". If I could harness and bottle it, I'd be able to gamble non stop. A lot people can move the rock and don't know why, only if I knew...
 
I use to draw most of my shots mainly for position. Then I started playing better players and seeing the go 2-3 rails for position. I figured they were better so that must be the better shot. I am much more comfortable with follow shots but do think follow with side spin gets me in trouble some times. Guess it's best to be consistent either way. Just think I did better playing more draw shots for position.
 
A draw shot promotes top spin on the object ball, so inaccuracies in aiming are actually corrected slightly. And as the previous poster stated, it helps a cleaner contact.
 
I have a few comments:

1. I think that without careful experimentation, it would be difficult to prove true "I make shots easier with draw than follow". It could very well be a placebo affect.

2. If, in fact, it was conclusively proven for one particular individual that draw is easier than follow for making the shot, then perhaps the most logical hypothesis is that that particular individual is simply more comfortable with draw than follow, because he uses it more. If that same individual would play a week straight with only follow, maybe the follow would become higher percentage.
 
Anytime I get to use draw on a shot, I feel like my % goes up to make it. Is there a reason for this or is it just me feeling it does. Johnnyt

I play on many tables where the opposite it true, especially at shots hit with speed. The pockets reject shots with draw into the corners when shot down the rail at any type of decent speed.

I don't think I've ever put follow or draw on a shot to help me make it, it's always for position. Side spin I use at times, especially on thinner cuts, only to make the ball.
 
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