Ebay bans the sale of ivory across borders

ebay is full of crap lol, unless it has to do with them making money, any rule they come up with will not be enforced.
 
Danktrees said:
ebay is full of crap lol, unless it has to do with them making money, any rule they come up with will not be enforced.
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C'mon Dank! You gotta give them some props for trying to cut on the trade of illegal Ivory! I love the look of that Elephant Ivory, but knowing an animal was killed just for that (other than pre-ban Ivory) is tough knowing there are other choices out there. (ie. Mammoth Ivory)

Yally
 
They just cancelled a cue auction of mine for not stating that the ivory in the cue was here legally. I know what you're saying Dantrees, but they got me on this one.

However, they did say that I could repost if I added that disclaimer.

Gene
 
well u all seem to be under the impression that ebay never had rules against ivory. it's actually in their policy requirements that ivory not be traded unless it was deemed legal. that rule has always been there they just never enforced it (or only enforced it sporatically and with little determination). then some tv report came up about it so now ebay is putting on a small show to repair their rep. they might actually enforce this rule for a little bit but in a few months they will let things slide again.
 
yally said:
C'mon Dank! You gotta give them some props for trying to cut on the trade of illegal Ivory! I love the look of that Elephant Ivory, but knowing an animal was killed just for that (other than pre-ban Ivory) is tough knowing there are other choices out there. (ie. Mammoth Ivory)

Yally
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i would if that was their actual objective. the only reason why they are doing it now is because there was a report on it that was made public and now the conference at hague specifically targetted ebay. they're not trying to cut the trade of ivory, they're trying to look good in the eyes of its users. they've always had an anti-illegal ivory policy but they never enforced it. they are doing it now cuz people are criticizing them so i dont see why i should commend them for doing it.

also, even tho it was pre-ban ivory, an animal might still have been killed for the ivory lol so i dont see how ur argument holds. if u wanna say it's wrong to kill an elephant for its ivory, i will agree with u, but if u say that and also say that pre-ban ivory is fine then i dont agree with u. if anything, less animals are killed for their ivory now than before the ban. doesnt make it right but at least it's getting better.

as for pre-ban ivory, a lot of it was actually illegal, but then the amnesty on illegal stocks meant that the illegal ivory was made legal and a bunch flooded the market. so i would have to say that pre-ban ivory isnt much better than today's ivory, other than it being "legal" even tho an elephant still had to die for it.
 
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How do u know when u have pre-ban ivory? The cuemakers don't tell you its legal ivory. This is kinda funny.
 
Danktrees said:
i would if that was their actual objective. the only reason why they are doing it now is because there was a report on it that was made public and now the conference at hague specifically targetted ebay. they're not trying to cut the trade of ivory, they're trying to look good in the eyes of its users. they've always had an anti-illegal ivory policy but they never enforced it. they are doing it now cuz people are criticizing them so i dont see why i should commend them for doing it.

also, even tho it was pre-ban ivory, an animal might still have been killed for the ivory lol so i dont see how ur argument holds. if u wanna say it's wrong to kill an elephant for its ivory, i will agree with u, but if u say that and also say that pre-ban ivory is fine then i dont agree with u. if anything, less animals are killed for their ivory now than before the ban. doesnt make it right but at least it's getting better.

as for pre-ban ivory, a lot of it was actually illegal, but then the amnesty on illegal stocks meant that the illegal ivory was made legal and a bunch flooded the market. so i would have to say that pre-ban ivory isnt much better than today's ivory, other than it being "legal" even tho an elephant still had to die for it.
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I don't completely disagree with you. For myself, I am against the use of Ivory, and have gone back and forth about questioning the morality of pre-ban Ivory. Don't want to create a big thread in the for sale section, but Dank you can see this thread and poll I started about this subject a few months back.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=54609&highlight=wrong+ivory
 
Danktrees said:
well u all seem to be under the impression that ebay never had rules against ivory. it's actually in their policy requirements that ivory not be traded unless it was deemed legal. that rule has always been there they just never enforced it (or only enforced it sporatically and with little determination). then some tv report came up about it so now ebay is putting on a small show to repair their rep. they might actually enforce this rule for a little bit but in a few months they will let things slide again.
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Not sure if you're commenting on my post or not, but I was simply indicating that they DO act on auctions that are deemed inappropriate. Mine is a perfect example. They are doing the right thing by cancelling such auctions so as to protect themselves, but how about a warning before making the entire composed auction disappear as though it neve existed. I now have to write it all over again. Very frustrating!

Gene
 
Pre Ban Ivory

Pre ban ivory is documented at all sale points so if your cuemaker uses documented pre ban ivory you will not be affected in any way by this issue!
Nick :)
 
eBay Listing Nazis ...

There must be a bunch of Volunteer "losers" who prowl eBay listings in hopes of finding even "one word" that violates eBay policy ... I sell very high-end custom handmade knives through one of my accounts and many have Pre-Ban Ivory or some other Exotic handle materials incorporated in the piece ... Last year I listed a High-End Custom Folder ($2750) with Oosic (fossilized Walrus Penis, 25k years old) Scales (handles) and the eBay Nazis pulled my add because the knife was crafted with material from an "endangered species", even though I clearly stated that the material was at least 25k years old ... Mammoth Tusk is also legal and dates from the same period, but they b***h about that too ... eBay is smack-dab in the middle of Silicon Valley (San Jose, CA) and run by Bleeding-Heart-Liberals, but is still the best place to sell my goods, so I will continue to live with their b.s. policies ...
 
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strange laws

I think that it needs to be noted that legal ivory loses its legal status when it leaves the country. That means that a customs agent could confiscate your ivory-loaded cue upon re-entry to the U.S., regardless if the ivory is legal or not. That is absolutely ludicrous, in my opinion. How do players who compete internationally deal with this crap? Does anyone know????


nick serdula said:
Pre ban ivory is documented at all sale points so if your cuemaker uses documented pre ban ivory you will not be affected in any way by this issue!
Nick :)
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