EBONY or dyed maple?

JESToner

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i recently got this cue and noticed an interesting pattern in the so-called ebony forearm, does this look like ebony or dyed curly maple to you?

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In my opinion, the only way to tell is to get into the wood (sand).
Not all ebony is solid black; only the finest pieces are. If you do a google search you'll see ebony with lots of color variations in it.
Of course, it could be another wood that has been dyed, but as far as I know, there's only one way to find out (and it probably isn't worth doing).
 
well my main point is that i've never seen a "curly" pattern in any ebony, and neither has the 3 cuemakers i've shown this cue to.

what i wanted to point out in the picture is the stripe pattern running along the forearm
 
While I don't think curly ebony is very common I am sure that it is possible I have seen fiddleback figure in many woods that I thought it did not happen in. There are different kinds of ebony and the color and grain can vary greatly.Just a thought if I were going to stain maple to disguise it as ebony I would use a piece that had no figure in it at all. :smile:
 
Curly Ebony

I agree with Bryan- curly ebony definitely exists.
Here are a few photos of some "curly" and "figured" ebony.
 

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i recently got this cue and noticed an interesting pattern in the so-called ebony forearm, does this look like ebony or dyed curly maple to you?

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What kind of cue is it? McDermott made a lot of cues that were just dyed. They never claimed they were ebony but many just assumed.
 
well my main point is that i've never seen a "curly" pattern in any ebony, and neither has the 3 cuemakers i've shown this cue to.

what i wanted to point out in the picture is the stripe pattern running along the forearm

Does it make any difference and if so, why?
 
There was a thread in the cuemakers forum awhile ago regarding staining techniques. I tried to find it again but no luck. If I remember correctly, someone mentioned that there is a way of staining that will give the wood a curly affect. I have a Joss with grey/black curly. I was just thinking that if someone had a piece of curly maple with that much figuring in it, why would you want to go and stain it grey. By far, I'm no expert, just my opinion. I have a couple of cues with macassar ebony and a few pieces of macassar turning stock and I believe the macassar can have that type of figuring in it as well. Not 100% sure but I've heard of macassar being referred to as striped ebony. Sorry, I once had a photographic memory but as old age sets in, I'm starting to run out of film.
I'll try to dig that thread up again.
 
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okay you guys have proved your point that ebony can have a curly grain, either way, it still looks like dyed wood to me.

to KJ cues, you're right, there is not much of a difference, but i just wanted to know, just to know. if albrecht claims its ebony and it really isnt, then thats no good to me as a cuemaker.
 
I don't think he'd out and out lie to you about that. Hard to tell from the pics but if I had to guess and my life depended on it, I'd probably go with striped ebony.
 
i recently got this cue and noticed an interesting pattern in the so-called ebony forearm, does this look like ebony or dyed curly maple to you?

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Is the forearm cored? What do you see at the joint pin?
 
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