Educate me on 9 ball spots...

That is a deal with him paying the time unless he is slow rolling you but I doubt that since he was running open tables.

Ride it out and consider it cheap money to get in action.

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Ken_4fun said:
Ahead sets favors the strongest player ALWAYS.

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And the main reason for that is the set (to the same number) is going to go on for longer. If there is a huge mismatch, it will be over quickly anyway. If the players are close, the match will go on for a much longer time and since the small difference is multiplied by the length of the match, the slight favorite becomes the heavy favorite.

But if the two numbers are different, it gets complicated. Is 3 ahead about the same percentages as race to 7?
 
Many years ago when I was an inexperienced player I ask a buddy of mine why he gave a weaker player so much weight. His answer was “ It doesn’t matter how much the weight is if I can run out 51% of the time.
 
SBC said:
7 out means a lot less on a barbox versus a 9 foot table. Good players will reliably clean up the last 3 balls on a barbox. Still it's a big spot.

7 ahead for 100 is a lot. Could take several hours. That said if he wanted to have time to exert his superior firepower, this would allow it.

Play him again. Try to get all the breaks. It would negate whatever his break and run percentage is. On a barbox that's likely 20%from the sounds of his rating.

No matter what people tell you... Gambling is the best way to get better and ensure that you are getting his best game. Don't worry about getting weight... Soon enough you will be giving it up to get action.
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Thanks for this advice. I truly believe that playing folks better than myself with something on the line is a good way to not only sharpen my game, but to learn strategies and patterns.
 
9ballky said:
many years ago when i was an inexperienced player i ask a buddy of mine why he gave a weaker player so much weight. His answer was “ it doesn’t matter how much the weight is if i can run out 51% of the time.
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........very true
 
As the player giving weight, when spotting balls, how much, if any, effort is there to take these balls out of play? Is it a consideration or do focus on the out?
 
Watched Ginky give a C player every ball on the table with Ginky breaking....C player pulled up very quickly, maybe never made a ball.
 
jimmyco said:
As the player giving weight, when spotting balls, how much, if any, effort is there to take these balls out of play? Is it a consideration or do focus on the out?
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For me none. I used to play in a handicapped tournament where I had to spot some players the 7 out and occasionally there would be a player I had to give the 6 out. I basically played for the first shot because I knew I could run out and win the game as long as the balls weren’t tied up. If the balls were tied up I would just run to the problem and play safe. Playing weaker player your safety play doesn’t even have to be great. Just leave them a hard shot because if your giving them much weight it means their kicking and safety play isn’t on your level either. I finished in the top 4 of this tournament every time I played in it except once. That day I couldn’t run out, I couldn’t play a safe, I could shoot the cue ball down table and hit the end rail with it. I deserved to not do well.
 
So quick update for those who care:
Played this same dude Monday night, but got him to play more to my comfort level.

8- ball race to 7 for 100.
3 foul rule in effect
I got 3 games on the wire and the breaks, but it was " take what you make"

I won 7-5. ( which really means I actually won 4 games)

I had 1 break and run, and dropped the 8 on the break (which was a win). Glad to get the hundo back, but if I'm honest with myself, it takes some of the luster off of it because of the big spot. I want to get to the point where I can beat this guys heads up!
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quote: I want to get to the point where I can beat this guys heads up!

you will never get to do that. as soon as you start to get close in speed to him he will cut out your spot and make you play even. and when you get a little closer, he wont play you any more unless you spot him. that is how it works in the pool room.
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maha said:
quote: I want to get to the point where I can beat this guys heads up!

you will never get to do that. as soon as you start to get close in speed to him he will cut out your spot and make you play even. and when you get a little closer, he wont play you any more unless you spot him. that is how it works in the pool room.
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You nailed that one. I can’t count the times I’ve seen this happen
 
never out play your spot. keep them reeled in. that's bad gambling. I dont care if I have to get the 5 out and the breaks and a 4 game spot in a race to 5 as long as I'm the one getting paid at the end.
 
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