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gopi-1 said:You should've set a time frame on your bet in case Yen/Raya does a KT Roy!
Post #48 in the "will it be cancelled" thread:
(I made this post AFTER the bet with Nostroke, though, but before Berry accepted the bet...)
Roy Steffensen said:
Talked to Darren yesterday, and he seemed comfortable that he would get his money...
But I only know of Johnny Archer getting paid by now
But I only know of Johnny Archer getting paid by now
Has anyone involved given any cogent reason why the prize money was not ready for immediate disbursement the moment Daz sunk the final 9? Or why it will take "weeks" to arrive? (From Jay's post) If it's being done electronically there's no reason it should take more than 48 hours even for an international wire transfer.
It's not like they didn't know what day and time this tournament was going to end, or what the amount of the prize purse was. If the prize purse funds are in a bank account right now then cashier's checks can be drawn up just as easily (if not more easily) than sending a wire transfer sent and handed out physically to players who are present.
It's not like they didn't know what day and time this tournament was going to end, or what the amount of the prize purse was. If the prize purse funds are in a bank account right now then cashier's checks can be drawn up just as easily (if not more easily) than sending a wire transfer sent and handed out physically to players who are present.
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Your procedure is too normal. RAYA may still be waiting for the sponsors to pay-up! But with the audience turn-out there just may be a little discussion between RAYA and the sponsors about "media values".AuntyDan said:
That's why we were pushing for "money in escrow" with GAB before the start of the tourney. Am wondering if WPA was holding on to the funds before the WTBC since it's their sanctioned tournament and, as evidence from their press releases here in AzB, fully backs the WTBC.
Hoping the players get paid soon or have been paid.
JB Cases said:Sorry too good to pass up:
Maybe Yen has picked up Keven Trudeau's new book, Debt Cures They Don't Want You to Know About.
How about the Phillipine players? Surely they have been paid?
NO!(verified information as I type this) Not a single centavo. Remember too that I also posted the referees complaint that they weren't given food and transpo allowance plus weren't paid for their services yet?
I'll guarantee you that if payments are going to be made it's the Filipino Player that's going to be paid last by this organizer. That's just how they look down at "local under-educated, money-hungry players". Plus they have to make a good impression to the international community.
Just VERIFIED! The local REFEREES have not been paid for their services rendered!
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Well this is going to majorly suck if it goes down as another air barrel. Normally you pay your event staff right away when the event is done. Maybe TruDough is fedexing the cash over.
This might be the end of the brilliant flash that was Filipino pool superstars coupled with high profile events held in the Phillipines.
Unless Bandido - with the group whose acronym is too hard to remember - and his group can save the day by lining up the sponsors behind the stars of the game.
This might be the end of the brilliant flash that was Filipino pool superstars coupled with high profile events held in the Phillipines.
Unless Bandido - with the group whose acronym is too hard to remember - and his group can save the day by lining up the sponsors behind the stars of the game.
Also my understanding.JB Cases said:
Please don't link these Filipino Superstars' names to the WTBC event, we did disown it from months back, remember? Our directly affected players didn't even take part of it. We even issued a BMPAP Advisory!JB Cases said:
It's BMPAP-Billiard Managers and Players Association of the Philippines.JB Cases said:
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bandido said:
I didn't link your player to the WTB. I said that it might be the end of high profile events in the Phillipines which are effectively the Phillipines vs. the best of the rest of the world. We all thought that the Phillipines, with it legendary unlimited supply of top notch players, coupled with the world championship events, would become the epicenter of pool.
Hopefully that concept will still come true. My concern is that if this tournament turns out to be an air barrel then it will be hard to convince anyone to travel there to face the world's best when they might get stiffed.
I mean, if the WPA can't enforce payment for a tournament it sanctions then who can?
I got it - BM + PAP - BMPAP
Do the players and managers have an equal voice in the BMPAP? Seems like there are more players than managers and that the managers could be easily out voted. Or is it even democratic?
And is Yen's position an elected one? Why can't the members of the BSCP force him to step down or call for a new election?
JB Cases said:
I'm hoping that we do have equal voice and benefits. Players are making money off of our tourneys and I get all the cr&p. LOL!!! I'm sure that they can boot us out but our existance is mutually beneficial.
Maybe BSCP has or not but I couldn't care less really. All we care for is that they serve the sport and country fairly and do their job of creating grassroot programs for the sport's improvement in this country. Why dabble in some other venture when they haven't even satisfied their main responsibility? Like I've said before, they are the Amateur oranization and we're the Professional Organization. They should stick to their role!
Those propagandists still didn't proceed with caution even though they know that we've got their number and are watching them! PAY UP!!! Specially the referees who already rendered services! Don't you blowhards understand the message, from not paying the referees, this is sending to us, the fans, the nation, the corporate sponsors and the government?
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So I guess they should be given an opportunity to make good their promise.
How long does it take for other similar tournaments to pay out? I mean what is a reasonable time frame?
There was a discussion before that the WTB might not push through. It concluded recently... plus an announcement that there will be more WTB tournaments to come in the PI.
There was also a discussion about the possible lack of funding or sponsors.
I think we will indeed find out within a week or so if everyone will get paid.
The commitment to pay should be honored no matter what. If they don't pay up they will be held responsible.
Innocent until proven guilty right? If they make good, it will be a great development. If they are guilty, they will be judged... not by us but by the world.
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Monski, what are you talking about? They are already guilty of not paying the people who already have rendered their services, the referees, and expect immediate payment or at completion of the project which was last Sunday. These people, the referees, depend on daily income to support their family. Had they not been hired to work in the WTBC they would have been earning daily in the poolhalls. How do you think are they feeding their family now without payment for the duration of the WTBC? 10 Days including the Qualifiers.monski said:
That is tru Moski but common sense brings me to think that if they cannot pay small amounts for services rendered what more the bigger amounts. True that they may eventually pay the foreign players and staff FIRST, for fear of international community backlash, and as usual the Filipinos go last. We'll see how united and caring the international pool community is about the little guys in the industry. Or is it going to be the heck with them as long as I get paid.