Gerald said:Efren is THE MAN ! He stated in a newpaper article, that was , I believe, posted on this site, and published in 1976 that he was past his prime! We didn't even get to see him until the mid eighties.
BallBuster said:I think I read that somewhere in the internet... when Efren was in his late teens and early twenties... (18 - 24 I believe)... he claimed that was his prime years.. and some knowledgeable folks who see him play claimed he is almost unbeatable at that time... in any game of pool... the article also claimed that Efren was already past his best years when he came to America... of course this could just be hearsay.. I'll try to find the article..
No need to find that article.BallBuster said:I think I read that somewhere in the internet... when Efren was in his late teens and early twenties... (18 - 24 I believe)... he claimed that was his prime years.. and some knowledgeable folks who see him play claimed he is almost unbeatable at that time... in any game of pool... the article also claimed that Efren was already past his best years when he came to America... of course this could just be hearsay.. I'll try to find the article..
sjm said:Don't mean to doubt you, but this is a little hard to believe. Efren claimed he was past his prime when he was in his early twenties? Do you have the article? I'm very interested.
Cynion said:For someone who never really proved himself in majors......hasn't he won 4 world 8ball titles? Efren may not be a Tiger Woods.......but Tiger Woods is no Jack Nicklaus. Iverson is no Jordan, etc etc. I don't think Efren is the best 9-ball player in the world. However i think Earl might be one of the best 9-ball players ever and for him to call Efren the best, thats good enough for me.
BallBuster said:I think I read that somewhere in the internet... when Efren was in his late teens and early twenties... (18 - 24 I believe)... he claimed that was his prime years.. and some knowledgeable folks who see him play claimed he is almost unbeatable at that time... in any game of pool... the article also claimed that Efren was already past his best years when he came to America... of course this could just be hearsay.. I'll try to find the article..
prewarhero said:The genuis of efren is being lost in the debate. He is not the best 9baller or one pocket player, or even str8 pool player of all time. ..... A perfect runout from efren looks a lot prettier then a run out from others. Although, sometimes earl's runouts look petty damm sexy.
BallBuster said:Celtic... you know very well that 9-ball is 50% luck 50% talent... if you're on a roll(winner break) you can run 9-balls in any race... Efren does it, Earl, Archer, Yang, Soquet, Mika... every top-notch 9-baller does it... even with smaller pocket at WPC 05, guys are run-out all the time... recently Yang vs Hundal.. Hohmann, the Taiwanese qualifiers, new names from Europe..there is just too much luck factor in 9-ball... so it's very difficult to say who's the best pool player using 9-ball as gauge... even so, Elfren already all the major 9-ball tournaments in the World.... but the more difficult games like 8-ball, 1-Pocket and 15-ball rotation, I don't think anybody would dare to bet even with Efren...