Been around since before the Dead Sea was sick...
Still a fine shot. That guy is pretty good.
Efren Reyes - Would you do this for the cash?
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Been around since before the Dead Sea was sick...
Still a fine shot. That guy is pretty good.
Because everyone knows more than champions, don't ya know. And of course, if Efren took the wrong shot so many times, folks would not back him, but lets not use logic here, that might make some folks grumpy
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Surely you don't want to play "who is more Filipino?" That would be quite... weird.
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Learn how to play.
Billy even said you shoot it unless you don't play that great. Are we going to start listing all options for shots because some people don't shoot well?
I'm still a 1P hack and even i could shoot that shot without selling out if i took a little time to get it down. When given the choice of attempting a shot with almost no risk or allowing an opponent back to the table, you shoot the shot.
I may not know what im talking about between the game and the shot, but I'll trust the guy that bet his own for 50-plus years that taught me a bit of both.
You didn't like 3C on 1P.org telling you you're wrong, so you come over here and do the same thing. That's swell.
It will be soon. There is barely any commentary and no scoreboard. There was a lot going on that day and Effy's appearance that day was impromptu. We actually had to chase the camera around the room because we had no idea which table he'd have the match on.
That's the long answer... The short answer is, 'yes'. Rich lost to Efren getting 9-6.
Efren is a UFO! That's for sure. Thanks for your reply to this thread.
It's a nice shot, but nobody has mentioned Richie's mini "move". I believe the rule is you place the ball that's made on the spot and then put the owed ball behind it; Richie conveniently found the green 6 ball to place in front, which is the hardest ball to see on green cloth. It didn't appear to have bothered Efren, but it is still a move.
The move is the teacher.
Dave
The move is the teacher.
Dave
I hadn't noticed that. Sometimes it's better not to notice your opponent's moves.
As for the shot, I've been playing it since about 1965. I think putting both balls in front of my pocket (for the 50% of the time I don't make the shot
) doesn't give my opponent enough room to worry about.The other "safe" path leads to another 10 minutes of safe play and I'd rather beat the guy another two games in those 10 minutes. Better return on time invested. And in case my opponent is ONB, I've got him hooked for the duration, as he'll think I can't play.
A top player who didn't like the shot and wouldn't shoot it was Ronnie Allen, but what did he know?
This shot is another good one to have as a challenge between the two camps at some AZB get-together. Each side can shoot the shot their way against an opposing-camp player and we could see which camp actually wins in the situation.
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That shot was used all the time 20+ years ago in 9ball before Texas express rules. When you'd scratch on the break the balls would get spotted and you had to shoot from behind the head string, with all the pocketed balls on the break lined up on the spot.
Remember how crazy it was when you would make 4 or 5 balls on the break and scratch and had a huge long line of balls.
It's crazy to think we used to play like that.
Remember how crazy it was when you would make 4 or 5 balls on the break and scratch and had a huge long line of balls.
It's crazy to think we used to play like that.
And there's a reason this shot exists, to piss off poor players like you. I don't know anyone who plays 1p that doesn't know this shot and isn't affraid to shot it either. You seem to be the only scared one in the room.
I've only heard of that regarding the 8ball. Also with this I've never heard of the spotting the ball made first as the front ball.
Exactly. it makes no sense to master this move but then be afraid to use it during competition.....if efren rattles the pocket, look,where the cue all was left...yeah, this guy might know a thing or two. :thumbup:
ONB's reasoning why he wouldn't shoot it is even better. It's because he saw at one time an all time great screw up once.
my view
Buddy made this shot last Friday against me. Just the head ball but the other ball was close and whitey was darn near perfect...Plays it all the time and I've seen him prop bet it several times. I personally play whitey to the bottom rail. KISS for me but i don't have the effortless draw stroke he does. Of course you need to make sure your opponent has the balls straight and froze if you want to pull it off.
Buddy made this shot last Friday against me. Just the head ball but the other ball was close and whitey was darn near perfect...Plays it all the time and I've seen him prop bet it several times. I personally play whitey to the bottom rail. KISS for me but i don't have the effortless draw stroke he does. Of course you need to make sure your opponent has the balls straight and froze if you want to pull it off.
And evidently Efren doesn't have to get out his reading glasses like I need to do for the shot.
efren teaches this shot here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beHrUWPfXe0
The only rule I recall regarding the order of spotting is that at nine ball when a lot of balls used to get spotted, they were spotted in numerical order. I just checked on onepocket.org and they say nothing about spotting order but they do refer to the WPA rules for things not covered. The WPA rules do not mention a spotting order in the general spotting rule and there are no WPA one pocket rules.
If I were to make a rule for one pocket, it would be numerical order and the offending player should put up the last ball he made.
I have seen rules that said when spotting balls the number must be up so as not to give the shooter a possible target on the equator of the spotted ball. I think that's too detailed. I'm not sure what you're supposed to do for stripes with the number in the stripe or Elephant marbled balls.
Efren would beat anyone that follows your suggestion
Efren would probably win against anyone that follows your suggestion....of course how many {of us} will be playing Efren anytime soon?
Efren would probably win against anyone that follows your suggestion....of course how many {of us} will be playing Efren anytime soon?
Yes sir. I had a old schooler show me a few ways to make the two balls spotted shot. He said those shots been there as long as the game gas been played... Forever'
Long Live 1pkt!
efern helping to teach in video~> Think someone beat me to it'
http://youtu.be/beHrUWPfXe0
Rob.M
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Long Live 1pkt!
efern helping to teach in video~> Think someone beat me to it'
http://youtu.be/beHrUWPfXe0
Rob.M
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Old Nine Baller
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Efren would probably win against anyone that follows your suggestion....of course how many {of us} will be playing Efren anytime soon?
Efren would probably win against anyone if he did what I suggested also or are you saying you don't like his chances of getting one ball before his opponent gets two?
I would think that a player like yourself, who learned to play onepocket in 3 weeks would know that.
Many top players disagree on what to do from here when needing one ball.
P.S. For the giggling little girls who've never bet a quarter in their lives; If I needed both balls I would shoot the shot in a heartbeat.
ONB
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