Efrens World Cup move

Fleece3

Fleece3

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This account is according to Inside Pool......
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When Reyes produced the ultimate indignity during the thirteenth rack, playing a safety shot one-handed as he nudged the 1 ball along the top rail, Strickland was close to the boiling point.
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Is this disrespectful, rude, arrogant, or just a big so what?
 
Fleece3 said:
This account is according to Inside Pool......
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When Reyes produced the ultimate indignity during the thirteenth rack, playing a safety shot one-handed as he nudged the 1 ball along the top rail, Strickland was close to the boiling point.
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Is this disrespectful, rude, arrogant, or just a big so what?
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Sounds like a good move to me.

Apparently it doesn't take much to get Earl to go off.
 
I'd call this mildly inappropriate and slightly disrespectful. It's hard to understand why Earl reached the boiling point over this, but he had every right to take exception to Efren's act.

Call it hotdogging, taunting, gamesmanship or anything else you like, but this doesn't fall within my boundaries of good sportsmanship and professionalism.

I'm sure some will feel that, in view of Earl's numerous aberrant actions over the years, Efren was justified here, but I'm not buying that argument.
 
I often practice one-handed shots that would otherwise require a bridge... it's convenient/lazy rather than showing off. I don't care either way, Earl sharks the living s*** out of other people all the damn time with his COMPLETELY unacceptable (yet accepted) behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right, but in this case I'm indifferent.
 
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Hierovision said:
I often practice one-handed shots that would otherwise require a bridge... it's convenient/lazy rather than showing off. I don't care either way, Earl sharks the living shit out of other people all the damn time with his COMPLETELY unacceptable (yet accepted) behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right, but in this case I'm indifferent.
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I know a player who plays a very mean one-handed game.

Some people have told him his one-handed game is even better than his two-handed one.

If someone lets their opponent's one-handed shots unnerve them, that's their problem.

Flex
 
Fleece3 said:
This account is according to Inside Pool......
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When Reyes produced the ultimate indignity during the thirteenth rack, playing a safety shot one-handed as he nudged the 1 ball along the top rail, Strickland was close to the boiling point.
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Is this disrespectful, rude, arrogant, or just a big so what?
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Not any more disrespectfull than BUSTAMONTE shooting a long rail bank BEHIND HIS BACK. The most arrogant aspect of the shot was that he MADE it.

I don't think EARL would be bent out of shape if most other opponents executed a shot in that manner, but, ER is under his microscope. Is it possible that EARL is trying to subconsciously get his heart started in order to find his "A" game. Historically EARL has played his best when "fired up".

Of course my speculation is mute.....only ELIZABETH knows.;)
 
sjm said:
I'd call this mildly inappropriate and slightly disrespectful. It's hard to understand why Earl reached the boiling point over this, but he had every right to take exception to Efren's act.

Call it hotdogging, taunting, gamesmanship or anything else you like, but this doesn't fall within my boundaries of good sportsmanship and professionalism.

I'm sure some will feel that, in view of Earl's numerous aberrant actions over the years, Efren was justified here, but I'm not buying that argument.
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I agree with your sentiments completely.

I don't think it was justified based on the descriptions above, but would like to see it to make a judgment.

On the other hand, since it was Earl, I don't feel as bad about it as I might otherwise. If he had his eyes closed and head down not paying any attention as he so often does, he would have never seen it anyway.
 
ribdoner said:
Not any more disrespectfull than BUSTAMONTE shooting a long rail bank BEHIND HIS BACK. The most arrogant aspect of the shot was that he MADE it.

I don't think EARL would be bent out of shape if most other opponents executed a shot in that manner, but, ER is under his microscope. Is it possible that EARL is trying to subconsciously get his heart started in order to find his "A" game. Historically EARL has played his best when "fired up".

Of course my speculation is mute.....only ELIZABETH knows.;)
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Now to me that isn't disrepectful. I've known a few players who would do that simply because they couldn't shoot left-handed (or should I say wrong-handed?) I've tried it myself but alas I'm just not that flexible! I'll stick with swapping hands.
 
ribdoner said:
Of course my speculation is mute.....only ELIZABETH knows.;)
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Hah, that's a good one dude. Who ever would of thought that Elizabeth really could be... somebody else, whose name also happens to begin with an "E".... Hmmm...:rolleyes:
 
I can recall a few times where it was easier to hit a shot one-handed than using either my opposite hand or the crutch.

If it was just a rolling safety as described, perhaps Efren couldn't reach the shot because too many balls were in the way, and since it's usually all balls foul, maybe one-handed was the easiest option. I doubt Efren did it to disrespect Earl.

I know why it would piss off Earl, however. When Efren did that, Earl pictured some recreational players watching Efren do that and saying "OOooooh, that dude straight up SCHOOLED the other dude, he friggin did a one-handed shot! That guy Earl got OWNED by the magician dude and his magic wand!!!" :D :D :D :D
 
You can hit a tennis ball using one hand or two, why not a pool ball?:D

At Woodbine race track earlier this year a driver in a big stakes race came charging down the stretch. As he passed the leading horse he waved bye-bye. Got into trouble with the stewards because charging to the finish line with the reins in one hand was considered unsafe.:D
 
Regardless of what others suggest, playing a shot one-handed amounts to giving less than a total effort. Yes, some are quite proficient at it, but I've never seen it in any text book ever written on pool that "here's a shot you'll want to play one-handed," and I'm quite sure I never will.

Was this laziness, showiness, gamesmanship, or something else? In the end, it doesn't matter. One aspect of professionalism is always giving a maximum effort.

I doubt Efren has a bigger fan than me, but on this occasion, he was, ever so slightly, inappropriate in his behavior. With regrets and angusih, I'll have to downgrade Efren to being a great credit to the game of pool only 99.99999999% of the time.
 
hmmmmm, would Efren yank Earl's string?

Would Efren yank Earl's string? Based on a few incidents in the past and some strong indications that Efren enjoys a little mischief now and then I would say yes.

I think it may well have been a bit of "when in Rome" purely for fun. It could have been a deliberate preemptive strike or a payback for something Earl did in an earlier match to Efren or a friend too. At any rate, it doesn't really matter.

No rule was broken.

Hu
 
Gamesmanship.

That's all.

How many people *wouldn't* do this to their opponent who was very likely to lose because he can't cope? Not to mention what a nice guy he is. :rolleyes:

The only thing that would have made it better would have been if Bata smiled and said "watch this" before he did it.

Earl is probably the only person I've ever heard of that this could bother enough to cause a meltdown, so why allow Earl to control the atmosphere with his antics?

Gentle nudge, total meltdown, easy win.

Game, set, match.
 
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