Hopefully with the UK Open being in London it'll help raise the profile. There have also been a lot more amateur tournaments popping up over the last couple of years.
Emily Frazer making a lot of sense
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Emily has made sense, since the beginning. Thanks to her willingness to interview, and she has interviewed often, we get a great insight into Matchroom's vision. I think it is because of her and a couple of very good podcasters, other industry leaders have publicly interviewed. Not to hijack the thread but other notables who have interviewed "making a lot of sense" include Dean Roeselar with WPBA, Ozzy Reynolds with CSI and Karim Belhaj with Predator. When you hear these people describing their vision and why they do what they do, they too are "making a lot of sense".
As pool fans we are incredibly fortunate that the current big players in the industry have different motivations. One is a promoter, one is primarily a league and one is primarily a billiard product company. They are all doing their thing, in their manner, to best promote their product. It's a win/win for us as fans. I hope Matchroom's 9-ball becomes huge. I hope Predator's and CSI's 10-ball becomes huge, I also hope the WPBA and WPA look out for the interests of the players. I love what is going on and I think Emily and Matchroom are what has sparked this popularity.
As pool fans we are incredibly fortunate that the current big players in the industry have different motivations. One is a promoter, one is primarily a league and one is primarily a billiard product company. They are all doing their thing, in their manner, to best promote their product. It's a win/win for us as fans. I hope Matchroom's 9-ball becomes huge. I hope Predator's and CSI's 10-ball becomes huge, I also hope the WPBA and WPA look out for the interests of the players. I love what is going on and I think Emily and Matchroom are what has sparked this popularity.
Although I prefer call shot 10 ball for the pros, I think they made the right decision focusing on 9 ball as it leads to quicker runouts.
However, as Boyes mentioned- they do need tighter pockets- even with the triangle rack, balls were flying in too easily on the break.
Additionally, they should ban jump cues. It ruins brilliant safety play far too often.
However, as Boyes mentioned- they do need tighter pockets- even with the triangle rack, balls were flying in too easily on the break.
Additionally, they should ban jump cues. It ruins brilliant safety play far too often.
I'm grateful that somebody, someone, something is taking the reins and promoting professional pool in beautiful venues and showcasing players. Pool has needed this for a long time. Recreational pool and pool leagues is doing just fine, but pro pool has been circling the drain in USA.
Though I am happy to see pool prettied up so much by Matchroom with their fancy stages and broadcasting, I am saddened to think we are going to lose the American pool pie to the UK. Yes, the US Open is in USA, but the majority of events will be on the other side of the pond, one right after the other. It was inevitable that American professional pool would lose its geographic hotbed due to the amount of professional-caliber players entering the sport in USA—nil—but on a good note, I'm glad to see Matchroom will take the baton and effect a change for the better.
Bye-bye, American pool pie.
Though I am happy to see pool prettied up so much by Matchroom with their fancy stages and broadcasting, I am saddened to think we are going to lose the American pool pie to the UK. Yes, the US Open is in USA, but the majority of events will be on the other side of the pond, one right after the other. It was inevitable that American professional pool would lose its geographic hotbed due to the amount of professional-caliber players entering the sport in USA—nil—but on a good note, I'm glad to see Matchroom will take the baton and effect a change for the better.
Bye-bye, American pool pie.
I disagree. The jump shot is exciting and good for TV. Shane's comeback vs Mika would not have been possible without the jump cue.
If you can use a jump shot to get out of a "brilliant" safety, it wasnt that brilliant to begin with, was it. Playing a safety that eliminates the chance at a jump is a well executed safety.
So what are the large, international tournaments still based here? I am still confused with the whole US 9ball/us open/ international 9ball history.
US open
Derby City
Predator world 10 ball
Is turning stone considered an international tourney?
The other question I have is, have the world pool masters and world cup of pool ever been based in the US? If not, we really haven't lost anything. Either way, I believe the last thing MR wants to do is become known as the UK pool organization.
They are still trying to fight that impression with their cash cow, boxing. Heavyweight champ Tyson Fury has said many times that coming and fighting in the US was the best career move he ever made...Even to the point they were once considering Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua (TWO British Champions) in Madison Square Garden instead of Wembley Stadium. Could be apples and oranges, but I don't see MR doing anything to alienate the US fans.
But nobody misses with a jump cue. 90% of the people that post on this form could make the shots we saw at the WPC if they used a jump cue.
Shoot, I've already seen a handful of amateur players posting their version of the double jump shot that Jesus Atencio made a few weeks ago.
I'm not sure I understand the point. Many players can break and run a rack of 9B. Should we disallow break and runs?
Throw them on top of the Barbox's, and burn them all.
The break and run % for the WPC was in the mid 40s
The make/hit % for shots when a jump cue was used was probably closer to 100
If you say so. I recall Albin jumping an object ball off the table while scratching on a jump shot in the final. I'm fairly certain the jump shot make percentage for the entire event was not close to 100%.
Making a hit on a jump shot is just one side of the story. Getting position for the next shot is another.
And the double jump posted here by a member was not the first attempt, and CERTAINLY wasnt done under the pressure of a professional match.
Get over it people. Y'all can bitch and whine about jump cues all you want, but jump cues are not going anywhere. They are here to stay.
And the double jump posted here by a member was not the first attempt, and CERTAINLY wasnt done under the pressure of a professional match.
Get over it people. Y'all can bitch and whine about jump cues all you want, but jump cues are not going anywhere. They are here to stay.
That's my point. I'm not skilled with the jump cue myself, but these pros and good amateurs are too adept at using it- it decreases the impact of good safety play too often. I know people love to ridicule Earl, but sometimes he is right.
A good safety takes the jump cue out of the equation.
Golf has made drivers insanely huge and forgiving to make the game more fun for pros and amateurs alike and here comes pool, wanting to eliminate jump cues and shots to make things more difficult because we love sadism. When I show my non-pool playing friends jump shots they find it insanely cool, usually saying things like "I didn't know you could do that." Just a reminder, those are the people we want to draw to the game. There's no need to draw people to pool who are already here.
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I guess it all depends on how one defines a good safety. These guys are so adept at using the jump cue, that they can too easily escape being hooked