EU Sanctions and the Mosconi Cup

jasonlaus

Rep for Smorg
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I completely agree. It's not their fault. But being treated as individuals is not something they're used to in their country. Remember, in communism there are no individuals, or individual rights. Only what's deemed by the government to benefit society (as the government sees it) as a whole. So when it comes right down to it, they're used to this kind of crap.
Now they're being treated like shit by the rest of the world...guess when somebody's down we should keep kicking them
 

buckshotshoey

AzB Silver Member
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Now they're being treated like shit by the rest of the world...guess when somebody's down we should keep kicking them
I think you are seeing the hatred directed at the Russian government.... not the people themselves. There are thousands of Russian people being arrested just for protesting the invasion of Ukraine. They knew they would be arrested yet they did it anyway. I respect that. And so does the rest of the world. If you can come up with a better way then sanctions to punish the Russian government without affecting the people, I'm all ears.
 

pw98

Registered
It's currently impossible to transfer money to a Russian bank account from outside Russia so that's a complicating factor. As is the inability for Russian civilian aircraft to fly in the West.
No problem there. Just make a connection russia->hong kong->new york.
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
sooner or later all or most countries will face a major war. like it or not humans are intolerant of those that are not like them and those that have what they would like to have.
 

o.g. (old guy)

mark
Silver Member
I remember in the past some foriegn athletes defected to the U.S. and other countries. I don't know their personal situation, but seems like an option. We could use some help on the MC team. Seriously I hope things work out for them.
 

philly

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No problem there. Just make a connection russia->hong kong->new york.
That would require inter bank communication.
SWIFT has been taken away from Russia.
SWIFT is how banks communicate with each other.
What you are proposing cannot be done with the way the current sanctions are in place.
By the way, Russia's largest bank, Sberbank, failed today.
It went under.
The world is shunning everything Russian.
 

MattPoland

AzB Silver Member
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This is where it becomes official for pool.

And the WPA announcement too.
 

philly

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This is where it becomes official for pool.

And the WPA announcement too.
Russian athletes have been banned from the Paralympic stage now too.
Russian presence is being eliminated from the world stage
in every global venue athletic and otherwise by consensus.
About time!
Roll on Ukraine.
 

Dan_B

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IOC?
is that the international olympic committee? the entity that gave putin and jinping the platform embrace of their future and, the weed-whackers (WPA) endorse it? The EU and Britain are complicit for the evil they're willing to live with if they don't take out moscow and beijing.
 

chefjeff

If not now...
Silver Member
This definitely sucks. I would like to see Fedor, Ruslan, Kristina, and Margaret compete. I consider myself a fan. But sadly this is exactly the intent of the decision. My disappointment and the unfairness to these athletes is how it’s meant to play out.

Fedor has harmed no one.

Yet, he will be harmed by the unspeakables.

No only unfair, but criminal.


Jeff Livingston
 

sjm

Older and Wiser
Silver Member
Fedor has harmed no one.

Yet, he will be harmed by the unspeakables.

No only unfair, but criminal.


Jeff Livingston
Please. When in history have the citizens of countries waging war and engaging in unprovoked attacks not borne some of the negative consequences of such aggression? There's nothing really new here.

The economic sanctions imposed on Russia by the United States and countless other countries have reduced the value of the ruble dramatically, inflicting further and intentional financial torture on anyone having assets denominated in that currency. Is that fair or are these countries engaging in such sanctioning just as unspeakable.

There are no absolutes here. This mess and its consequences, in which many have a part, is harming countless innocent people. The nations of the world have yet to devise a method of dissuading or punishing acts of major aggression without harming innocent people in the process.

We all understand that Russia's actions were not directed by the likes of Kristina, Ruslan and Fedor, but sadly, and as you note unfairly, they will bear some of the consequences of the actions of their government.

In short, the saying "all's fair in love and war" is not quite accurate.
 

chefjeff

If not now...
Silver Member
If war isn't criminal than what is?

You and I are old, Stu....Nam taught us everything we need to know about war.

Thanks for the reply,

Red Reddington from the tv show, The Blacklist: "There are no sides, only players."


Jeff Livingston
 
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