Eureka.. What has helped my game more than anything else..

MOJOE

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I don’t start many threads, really don’t post all that much unless I’m just compelled to..

With that said, I wanted to share something that has taken my game up a few levels so far.

Caveat, this has helped me for several weeks but I’m playing with more confidence and a MUCH higher run-out percentage than ever before.
Here goes.. I’ve played pool for over 25 years, in the past 4 years or so I’ve really tried to step up my game.. (I’m 42)

I’ve had lessons from Shan S., Scott Lee, attended a pool clinic with Tom Simpson etc in the past decade. Most recent was my lesson with Stan around a year or so ago. I’ve gotten some solid things to work on from each, Stan absolutely blew me away with his knowledge and teaching ability.

I’ve read numerous books on sports psychology, focus, etc.. Watched tons of instructions videos. I’ve gotten a little from everything that I’ve tried but seemed to be stuck at my level.. As a reference, I’m a 7 in APA, usually in the top few of my AA league but I wanted to get to becoming a more consistent player. That's not bragging, just giving a reference.. I've got a lot to learn.

I’ve practiced drills religiously, worked on my stroke, fundamentals and video-taped my play on numerous occasions for self-analysis.
As mentioned above, this has all helped me progress, but I still was not happy with my consistency.

Here is what I’ve taken away and what has worked for me.. YMMV, I’m not looking for arguments, just stating that the following has brought me up to the next level..

My approach to the game has been drastically changed.. By myself..
I used to TRY too hard, I believe. I was always thinking about what I was doing, how I should aim this shot, where my body was in relation to the shot, whether my cue was under my dominant eye, etc.. You get the picture. I would pressure myself to run out thinking about what would happen if I missed a particular shot.

I was getting to where I did not enjoy the game anymore, it seemed too much like work.

Now I practice and play the same way, I still focus, but I’ve pretty much removed the fear from my game. I’m not talking about free wheeling, I’m just saying that I do what I know how to do.(from lots of instruction, 1000's of hours of practice, etc.) I’ve stopped worrying about aiming unless it’s a very difficult shot. I’ve removed the, what if I miss thoughts from my head. I’m running out a ton more and don’t feel pressure to do so. I just don’t worry about what happens if I miss, which I obviously still do but surprisingly, not nearly as often.

Once I got all of the systems and thoughts out of my head when I am playing, my game has sky-rocketed. This is something that many of you good players have been doing a long time, I’ve even know it but I could not work it into my play until now.. I’m just sorry it took me 25 years to figure it out, really figure it out!

I’m having fun again and am playing the best pool of my life. I also took 3 months away from the game this summer, that did me a lot of good as well.

Enough of my ranting.. Just wanted to share, sorry about the length but no one is forced to read it..

Peace, JoeyK
 
Well said Neil, why it took me so long to realize this, I dunno? But after stepping back and thinking about it, it's what I've observed from nearly all of the top players I watch.. They for the most part are not over thinking, they are just doing what they've trained to do with very few exceptions.

I always enjoy your perspective.

Peace JoeyK
 
Very good post.

I too have had a "Eureka" moment.

The light bulb for me went off when I read Fancher's - Pleasures of Small Motions. I can't remember the exact part of the book that did it for me and I don't have it sitting here in front of me, but there's a portion (or several) in that book were he talks about focusing on your body while shooting. It really shouldn't have been all that earth shattering but I realized at that point in time I was spending way too much energy focusing on the balls. I was like the golfer that was trying to "be the ball" before hitting the drive. So, my focus was constantly on where exactly do I need to hit the object ball and where exactly do I need to hit the cue ball. Now, I realize those are important variables BUT it's much more important to pay attention to what YOUR body is doing than it is to pay attention to those inanimate objects.

I think the one thing we need to be careful of with the conscious vs. subconscious issue is that we don't "through the baby out with the bath water" so to speak. I think it's a good practice to still talk yourself through your PSR and do some conscious adjusting of your stance and stroke mechanics at times. Of course, this should be done at the practice table if at all possible. Then we have to learn to let go of it all and trust that our subconscious will take over (pretty much echoing what Neil said).

Anyway MOJOE good stuff. I like reading about "Eureka" moments.
 
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Leveraging your subconscious

Well said Neil, why it took me so long to realize this, I dunno? But after stepping back and thinking about it, it's what I've observed from nearly all of the top players I watch.. They for the most part are not over thinking, they are just doing what they've trained to do with very few exceptions.

I always enjoy your perspective.

Peace JoeyK

Joey:

Based on the great responses you're getting thus far (especially from Neil), you might be interested in an article I wrote about leveraging your subconscious:

"Leveraging your subconscious (read: don't let your conscious get in the way!)"
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=216564

I wrote this for the 14.1 forum, precisely for the consistency aspect of 14.1 and how to tap into it for longer runs, but perhaps it might interest you?

I hope it's helpful,
-Sean
 
Hey Sean,

Thanks a bunch for pointing that out.. This is the reason I love the forum, it's guys like you, Neil, RandyG etc. that make it all worth while. I appreciate the direction..

Have a fantastic day,

Joey

Joey:

Based on the great responses you're getting thus far (especially from Neil), you might be interested in an article I wrote about leveraging your subconscious:

"Leveraging your subconscious (read: don't let your conscious get in the way!)"
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=216564

I wrote this for the 14.1 forum, precisely for the consistency aspect of 14.1 and how to tap into it for longer runs, but perhaps it might interest you?

I hope it's helpful,
-Sean
 
Joey,

It sure sounds like you've made some great progress in your mental game. It's funny how a change in our mindset or attitude can affect our playing level. We search for physical answers and find a lot of frustration and more questions. Then, with the flick of a mental switch, things fall into place and our outlook brightens.

Keep us posted on any "Aha", moments. Maybe we can share some good news. :smile:

Best,
Mike
 
Will do Mike.. I'm only a few weeks into the "new approach" but so far I am getting amazing results.. I've never played with this confidence before.

I appreciate your comments and the help that you've graciously given me in the past. You are definitely one of the good guys here as well.

Updates forthcoming.. Peace, JoeyK

Joey,

It sure sounds like you've made some great progress in your mental game. It's funny how a change in our mindset or attitude can affect our playing level. We search for physical answers and find a lot of frustration and more questions. Then, with the flick of a mental switch, things fall into place and our outlook brightens.

Keep us posted on any "Aha", moments. Maybe we can share some good news. :smile:

Best,
Mike
 
I think you stole the words right out of my mouth... :)

I've been up and down as well after taking up the game again. I've think that analyzing everything I was doing, over-practicing vs. playing, and learning new systems and approaches to the game helped me to some degree, but I'm slowly coming to the realization that it's hurting me now and preventing me from getting to the level I'm capable of.

I feel my ball pocketing and knowledge is better than when I played years ago, but except for certain nights or small time periods here and there my overall level of execution is less.

I think the light bulb went on for me just over the past 2 weeks or so. I usually practice a lot, or end up playing people that aren't as good, and while I have this feeling of not playing well or not being confident I still end up winning the majority of the game, or quickly forgetting the bad feeling of playing bad and moving on. I've played a few matches recently against pretty decent competition and it really hit home because my mistakes and inconsistent play were more noticeable as it caused me to spend more time in the chair thinking about them... :)

So now I just need to figure out how to "let go" so to speak, and I hope I can achieve the same thing you have. Thanks for the great post, very timely!!!!
Scott
 
Scott,

I think learning to let it go came from a number of things I've experienced in my life.

The biggest has been surviving cancer. My outlook on life and what's important has totally changed. As crazy as it sounds, I'm a much better person for what I've endured over the past 4 years. It sucked real bad at times but I have no regrets.

I hope you find yours a much easier way my friend. I just tell myself before each time I play, "have fun and do what you know how to do". It's working so far.

Peace, JoeyK
 
I found the same thing. Watching the challenge table at valley forge the good players just fire the shot. if it goes it goes, but they sure don't worry about it, they just fire away. Pool is a very positive mind thing, any negative thought is trouble.
 
I wish all the ideas here would penetrate a friend of mine. He is a pretty good shooter, but his problem is that he thinks he is better than he actually is. It does, at times, screw up his game. He is not one to take advice so I just throw the hints at him and hope some sink in. :D
 
I truly believe, that I have actually figured out how a lot of Pros Aim, and how they execute their shots.
 
Ready!!!! :grin:



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Best,
Mike
 
Joey, thanks for posting your thoughts. I am so far from your ability, but I really wanna get better, too. I think I have short bursts of what you describe, and surely enough, I play pretty well, for me. Then I start thinking again, and.... well, you know how that works.

It's great to hear that this phenomenon is really what I'm looking for. That feeling, the confidence, the lack of anxiety about the current shot, or the next one. It came and went for me this evening. Hopefully I'll maintain it more frequently.

Again, thanks for the post. You, too, Neil, Randy and Sean.
 
Glad to help if I can!!

Justab from Bangor..

Sorry, I don't know your name!

I have been so excited about the changes in my game, I had to share. It's been the biggest change for me as far as reaching another level and it just hit me. I know it's nothing new or earth shattering but the light just went off one day and it's been full steam ahead ever since.

There is no doubt I'll still have off days, but I'm not worried about that. I know that I'd still not be there without the instruction and thousands of hours of practice but.. I've not been able to allow all of that to work for me until now. It feels so awesome to be able to let go of all of the thinking and let it happen.

I hope some others can take something away from this. Like I said, I'm not stating anything new, just sharing the changes that it's made for me lately. Keep at it, it will come!

Peace, JoeyK


Joey, thanks for posting your thoughts. I am so far from your ability, but I really wanna get better, too. I think I have short bursts of what you describe, and surely enough, I play pretty well, for me. Then I start thinking again, and.... well, you know how that works.

It's great to hear that this phenomenon is really what I'm looking for. That feeling, the confidence, the lack of anxiety about the current shot, or the next one. It came and went for me this evening. Hopefully I'll maintain it more frequently.

Again, thanks for the post. You, too, Neil, Randy and Sean.
 
Eureka.....helped my game!

I think they call it, " playing in the zone" !

Well said Neil, why it took me so long to realize this, I dunno? But after stepping back and thinking about it, it's what I've observed from nearly all of the top players I watch.. They for the most part are not over thinking, they are just doing what they've trained to do with very few exceptions.

I always enjoy your perspective.

Peace JoeyK
 
"Think long--think wrong."

That advice was given to me a long time ago by a pool-playing buddy I greatly respected. Of course, like so many other sayings, it's not always true, but it's a good guideline most of the time.

I really like the concept of flow.

My favorite of Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's books on flow is Beyond Boredom and Anxiety, because it contains a section on flow in rock climbing, my other obsession.
 
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