The Reno Diamond tables just had new cloth installed right before the tournament, so they were going to be more rewarding to cheating the pockets....at firstMasayoshi said:
Glen
Ever been "Diamondized"?
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Glen
Here's some pic's of my Diamond Pro that was setup by Glen, RKC. I suspect the tables at the DCC are much the same. This table has definitely helped my accuracy, but hasn't helped much in competition as most public tables are slop buckets.predator said:
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2516756000053666233FdhSvH
Don't take it the wrong way because if you hit the ball right it will not rattle and you can still cheat the pockets alot but unlike a goldcrown if the ball hits the rail six inches from the pocket it ain't going even at pocket speed. On my Diamond two balls won't go in the side pockets much less the corners and after a few months you don't even think about them being tight.--Leonard
No-I have not played on a Diamond table. I have however been "Ernesto-ized'. In both cases it seems you must hit em pretty straight. Don't you hate it when you stop watching the OB 2/3 of the way to the corner because it's 'good' and instead watch the CB travel path until you or someone else points out that your shot didn't go down.9BallPaul said:
I like to practice on tight tables-I just can't play very well on them.
Here is the AZ link to Greg's explanation to pocket measurements.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=409091&postcount=1
I played on Greg's tables when he introduced them to tournament play in the late 80s at the Lexington KY All Star $20,000 added tournament. The players absolutely loved the tables. Also, it was the first time I played on SIMONIS. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Then I got an opportunity to play with this cue a guy from Vegas built in his garage. Dave Kershenbrock... or something like that.... I didn't think I would ever miss a ball again. The DK cues were being sold USED for about $300. Just when I was about to divorce the wife and give up being a father to 3 young kids and go PRO.... reality hit me HARD.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=409091&postcount=1
I played on Greg's tables when he introduced them to tournament play in the late 80s at the Lexington KY All Star $20,000 added tournament. The players absolutely loved the tables. Also, it was the first time I played on SIMONIS. I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Then I got an opportunity to play with this cue a guy from Vegas built in his garage. Dave Kershenbrock... or something like that.... I didn't think I would ever miss a ball again. The DK cues were being sold USED for about $300. Just when I was about to divorce the wife and give up being a father to 3 young kids and go PRO.... reality hit me HARD.
JB Cases said:
Big C said:
Big C, thanks for that...:thumbup:
Now for everyone's viewing pleasure, look at the various pockets sizes...ordinary club pockets, home practice tables of some pro's and then the Asian 10ball championships. Actually I posted this a while ago in some other thread, but here it is again. This really is an eye opener and shows general direction of pool tables of the future. Tendency is definitely towards tighter equipment, so we better get our accuracy up.
http://www.pro9.co.uk/html/article.php?sid=929&mode=thread&order=0
Same here...well, at least for 1.5 years.JimS said:
But my Diamond does have one pocket that is just ridiculous. It spits out even well-hit balls that never hit the rail going in. For some reason, the pocket angles on that particular pocket is different than the others.
I should have let RKC install my table.
3RAILKICK said:
If you can make balls on a table that's been Ernestomized, then you'll do fine on a Diamond. The Ernestomized tables I've played on were much tighter than the Diamond Pros.
I personally find the pocket size of the Diamonds to be the easiest thing to adjust to; I think the pockets on the Diamonds play perfectly. What I struggle to adjust to are the properties of the cushions, and how balls react off of them. I have always played on Gold Crowns, and I find that a major adjustment is required when moving from a GC to a Diamond with regard to position play, banking, kicking, etc. I pocket balls with ease (well, with as much ease as I'm accustomed to) on the Diamonds, but constantly find myself out of line on them because the 1, 2, and 3 rail paths I'm used to seeing are just not there. So, for me, getting Diamondized means hooking the holy hell out of myself by trying the same position paths that work on a Gold Crown.
Aaron (gotta get a Diamond in my basement)
One Diamond I didn't like
We have a bunch of Smart Tables at the pool hall I play out of and one not far from here is exclusively Diamond...to include some 9 footers. We have another club opening in the next few weeks that will be all Dia I love playing on Diamonds. Probably get one for the house one of these years.
I remember the 1st year that our BCA State Tournament was played on Diamonds. I saw people hit the rail from 1 1/2 to 2 diamond up and still pocket balls. It was ridiculous. Like trowing balls into a bucket from 3 feet away.
I later was told by one of the table techs that these tables were a little different. It seems that the APA had asked Diamond to make some tables for them based on "APA" specifications only to back out of the deal. So these tables hit the tournament trail. I'm glad that we have regular tables now.
Coming up dry on the break and watching someone roll ball after ball into those huge pockets was sure aggravating
We have a bunch of Smart Tables at the pool hall I play out of and one not far from here is exclusively Diamond...to include some 9 footers. We have another club opening in the next few weeks that will be all Dia I love playing on Diamonds. Probably get one for the house one of these years.
I remember the 1st year that our BCA State Tournament was played on Diamonds. I saw people hit the rail from 1 1/2 to 2 diamond up and still pocket balls. It was ridiculous. Like trowing balls into a bucket from 3 feet away.
I later was told by one of the table techs that these tables were a little different. It seems that the APA had asked Diamond to make some tables for them based on "APA" specifications only to back out of the deal. So these tables hit the tournament trail. I'm glad that we have regular tables now.
Coming up dry on the break and watching someone roll ball after ball into those huge pockets was sure aggravating