Ever been "jarred?"

cincyman said:
I actually was jarred once and what they didn't know was back then i played good fVVked up lol. I did however end up getting in a fight with a good friend of mine at the time of the "jarring" and got the money anyway:eek:
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Cincyman probably jarred himself.....not the brightest crayon in the box. :rolleyes:

Ken
 
I jarred myself once. I was betting $600 a game one pocket and was up $3000 and I took a break and swallowed a vicodin. It was four in the morning and I had been up all day and night and I was scared of the bet.

So I thought the Vicodin would ease the pain and calm me down.

Was I wrong or what. I came back to the game 30 minutes later and couldn't make a ball in the ocean.

I made every mistake possible to sell out short of raking the balls to my opponents pocket every game.

I can't say that I have ever been drugged by anyone else in a pool room or elsewhere but especially in poolrooms I don't accept drinks from strangers and I tend to keep my drink under my control.

Of course the real reason may be that I just don't bet enough for anyone to waste the drugs on me :-)
 
JB Cases said:
I jarred myself once. I was betting $600 a game one pocket and was up $3000 and I took a break and swallowed a vicodin. It was four in the morning and I had been up all day and night and I was scared of the bet.

So I thought the Vicodin would ease the pain and calm me down.

Was I wrong or what. I came back to the game 30 minutes later and couldn't make a ball in the ocean.

I made every mistake possible to sell out short of raking the balls to my opponents pocket every game.

I can't say that I have ever been drugged by anyone else in a pool room or elsewhere but especially in poolrooms I don't accept drinks from strangers and I tend to keep my drink under my control.

Of course the real reason may be that I just don't bet enough for anyone to waste the drugs on me :-)
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$600 a game is enough for MANY people to jar you. Just, OOPS, I almost brought up the place it happened to me.
 
Real "Jar"

Most of the posts I've read so far have little to do with being "jarred." Most of them are about too much drink, too much dope, or being "Mickey Finn'd."

The Jar was a special drug, developed by the Germans in WWII. It was designed to be a truth serum, much like Sodium Penathol. I won't mention the real chemical names and give some lurking lunatics any ideas. The jar would corrupt your vision, coordination, and make you very suggestive and pliable. Many of the jar hustlers would use it on women. It was very hard to quit when you were jarred, because it didn't actually feel too bad, and most players actually thought they were playing good. It's a Class X drug, and at least as bad as crack to get caught with. Very dangerous too. The jar epidemic in Chicago in the 70s came to a halt only after two people died from it and the G started investigating and arresting people (most of those arrested were from Michigan and Detroit --the Hillbilly mafia). Canadian Pete Tasic, a chemical virtuoso, used to go to the "jar bars" and act like he had money to play, hoping to get jarred and get a free high. I was very careful and still got jarred twice, once against Poochy Sexton and once against Clyde Childress. in both cases the deed was done by the backers not the players. Clyde did not know what had transpired. In order to get me they had to get extremely creative, but that's another story.


the Beard
 
most of us using the term loosely

Freddy,

As you say, most of us are using the term loosely. People will try to dope someone with whatever is near to hand with no idea of their health or tolerances. My hair and beard were fairly long at time as my avatar indicates and some folks thought I was deep in the life, some thought I was a narc. Funny thing was that I wasn't either one. The times I was drugged the effects were quick and unmistakable. I stopped playing, grabbed my money down and hit the door, and heaven help anyone between me and the closest door because I got out of Dodge in a hurry to get to a quiet place to see just how bad the doping was gonna be.

I was pretty careful myself. Once was in my home bar where I had been going daily for years and felt safe from such crap at the time and once involved a girl I had known several years. In most places if I was alone and took my eye off of my beer for a moment I was done with it.

Anybody that eats or drinks anything while playing pool can get something slipped to them. You can make it hard, you can make it very unlikely, but you can't make it impossible.

Hu


freddy the beard said:
Most of the posts I've read so far have little to do with being "jarred." Most of them are about too much drink, too much dope, or being "Mickey Finn'd."

The Jar was a special drug, developed by the Germans in WWII. It was designed to be a truth serum, much like Sodium Penathol. I won't mention the real chemical names and give some lurking lunatics any ideas. The jar would corrupt your vision, coordination, and make you very suggestive and pliable. Many of the jar hustlers would use it on women. It was very hard to quit when you were jarred, because it didn't actually feel too bad, and most players actually thought they were playing good. It's a Class X drug, and at least as bad as crack to get caught with. Very dangerous too. The jar epidemic in Chicago in the 70s came to a halt only after two people died from it and the G started investigating and arresting people (most of those arrested were from Michigan and Detroit --the Hillbilly mafia). Canadian Pete Tasic, a chemical virtuoso, used to go to the "jar bars" and act like he had money to play, hoping to get jarred and get a free high. I was very careful and still got jarred twice, once against Poochy Sexton and once against Clyde Childress. in both cases the deed was done by the backers not the players. Clyde did not know what had transpired. In order to get me they had to get extremely creative, but that's another story.


the Beard
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freddy the beard said:
Most of the posts I've read so far have little to do with being "jarred." Most of them are about too much drink, too much dope, or being "Mickey Finn'd."

The Jar was a special drug, developed by the Germans in WWII. It was designed to be a truth serum, much like Sodium Penathol. I won't mention the real chemical names and give some lurking lunatics any ideas. The jar would corrupt your vision, coordination, and make you very suggestive and pliable. Many of the jar hustlers would use it on women. It was very hard to quit when you were jarred, because it didn't actually feel too bad, and most players actually thought they were playing good. It's a Class X drug, and at least as bad as crack to get caught with. Very dangerous too. The jar epidemic in Chicago in the 70s came to a halt only after two people died from it and the G started investigating and arresting people (most of those arrested were from Michigan and Detroit --the Hillbilly mafia). Canadian Pete Tasic, a chemical virtuoso, used to go to the "jar bars" and act like he had money to play, hoping to get jarred and get a free high. I was very careful and still got jarred twice, once against Poochy Sexton and once against Clyde Childress. in both cases the deed was done by the backers not the players. Clyde did not know what had transpired. In order to get me they had to get extremely creative, but that's another story.


the Beard
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Man, great info. I don't know what they gave me, but I know I wouldn't go in search of it. Thanks for the lowdown.
 
JB Cases said:
I jarred myself once. I was betting $600 a game one pocket and was up $3000 and I took a break and swallowed a vicodin. It was four in the morning and I had been up all day and night and I was scared of the bet.

So I thought the Vicodin would ease the pain and calm me down.

Was I wrong or what. I came back to the game 30 minutes later and couldn't make a ball in the ocean.

I made every mistake possible to sell out short of raking the balls to my opponents pocket every game.

I can't say that I have ever been drugged by anyone else in a pool room or elsewhere but especially in poolrooms I don't accept drinks from strangers and I tend to keep my drink under my control.

Of course the real reason may be that I just don't bet enough for anyone to waste the drugs on me :-)
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I take vicadin and red bulls ....

Ken
 
freddy the beard said:
Most of the posts I've read so far have little to do with being "jarred." Most of them are about too much drink, too much dope, or being "Mickey Finn'd."

The Jar was a special drug, developed by the Germans in WWII. It was designed to be a truth serum, much like Sodium Penathol. I won't mention the real chemical names and give some lurking lunatics any ideas. The jar would corrupt your vision, coordination, and make you very suggestive and pliable. Many of the jar hustlers would use it on women. It was very hard to quit when you were jarred, because it didn't actually feel too bad, and most players actually thought they were playing good. It's a Class X drug, and at least as bad as crack to get caught with. Very dangerous too. The jar epidemic in Chicago in the 70s came to a halt only after two people died from it and the G started investigating and arresting people (most of those arrested were from Michigan and Detroit --the Hillbilly mafia). Canadian Pete Tasic, a chemical virtuoso, used to go to the "jar bars" and act like he had money to play, hoping to get jarred and get a free high. I was very careful and still got jarred twice, once against Poochy Sexton and once against Clyde Childress. in both cases the deed was done by the backers not the players. Clyde did not know what had transpired. In order to get me they had to get extremely creative, but that's another story.


the Beard
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This is exactly correct. The side effects of this drug would last at least 4 or 5 days. It worked well on people taking speed,( as most did in the 60's and 70's ) it made it extra hard to quit. Legend has it they used water pistols at the Cotton Palace in Dallas, jaring was so rampant people began putting their coffee under the pool tables.
 
thenuke said:
At RED'S tournament in 84 (Houston), I was playing Pittsburgh John one pocket for $200 game. I had him four games down. Ordered some coffee and had it setting in front of two not very high on the honest side guys in Houston. Won't mention their names, but one is no longer with us. Don't know about the other.
At the time you had to play pretty sporty to beat Pitt John. Well, I got to where I couldn't make a ball sitting in front of my hole. I noticed that JM and BR were snickering and they were in w/John, also.
Anyway, John got even with me, I pulled up, went over and sat down with Puckett. He looked at my eyes and said, "You've been jarred." I sat there with him and watched Gilbert Martinez play someone(I can't remember who) for about 3 to 3 1/2 hours. After that amount of time Istarted to feel better and actually played after that and played well.
I think jarring may be getting popular again, so don't leave your drinks or coffee unwatched, or better yet drink bottled water and keep it close.
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Good advice all the way around but you have to do more than keep the bottled water close. A switched bottle can take all of two seconds. The bottled water is GOOD, just not jar proof. Just a heads-up for those who want to be wary. When I order a bottled water, I make sure it hasn't been opened. I tear the paper wrapper on the bottled water in a particular manner (which I shan't share at the moment :wink: ) when I am concerned and normally sit in front of someone I know isn't going to do me in.

JoeyA
 
ShootingArts said:
Freddy, ...The times I was drugged the effects were quick and unmistakable. I stopped playing, grabbed my money down and hit the door, and heaven help anyone between me and the closest door because I got out of Dodge in a hurry to get to a quiet place to see just how bad the doping was gonna be...
Hu
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Good info Hu. Hey, has anyone ever heard of someone doing this when they were possibly faking being jarred, just to get out of a spankin'?
 
folks have been known to grab the money and run

KoolKat9Lives said:
Good info Hu. Hey, has anyone ever heard of someone doing this when they were possibly faking being jarred, just to get out of a spankin'?
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Folks have been known to grab the money and run of course. The people that saw me bail in a hurry that weren't involved were kinda curious what was going on the next time I saw them. Both times I was ahead when I left so it wasn't like I left loser and the people I was playing with knew exactly why I left. When it suited me I let everyone know why I left.

Hu
 
the real jar was the good jar!

freddy the beard said:
Most of the posts I've read so far have little to do with being "jarred." Most of them are about too much drink, too much dope, or being "Mickey Finn'd."

The Jar was a special drug, developed by the Germans in WWII. It was designed to be a truth serum, much like Sodium Penathol. I won't mention the real chemical names and give some lurking lunatics any ideas. The jar would corrupt your vision, coordination, and make you very suggestive and pliable. Many of the jar hustlers would use it on women. It was very hard to quit when you were jarred, because it didn't actually feel too bad, and most players actually thought they were playing good. It's a Class X drug, and at least as bad as crack to get caught with. Very dangerous too. The jar epidemic in Chicago in the 70s came to a halt only after two people died from it and the G started investigating and arresting people (most of those arrested were from Michigan and Detroit --the Hillbilly mafia). Canadian Pete Tasic, a chemical virtuoso, used to go to the "jar bars" and act like he had money to play, hoping to get jarred and get a free high. I was very careful and still got jarred twice, once against Poochy Sexton and once against Clyde Childress. in both cases the deed was done by the backers not the players. Clyde did not know what had transpired. In order to get me they had to get extremely creative, but that's another story.


the Beard
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That's the stuff that was going around Dallas,Tx. back in the 80's, me and my brother got jarred several times down there.

It never makes you high, buzzed, or feeling good,...... it just changed your thought process, it did make everything have a yellowish "tint" to it tho,.......

and players were not the only ones to get jarred , the backers and side betters too, sometimes playing by the game, you could pay off , then the guy would come back to ya and say "hey man you never paid me for the last game, and you'd pay him again", .......that jarr down their was some bad azz $hit!


And as "androd" said you could put your drink under the pool table, but it wasn't safe, cause that's when someone walked by with the water pistol and got ya, ....hell they would jarr the damn coffee pot and get everybody!



David Harcrow
 
KoolKat9Lives said:
Good info Hu. Hey, has anyone ever heard of someone doing this when they were possibly faking being jarred, just to get out of a spankin'?
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Oh YEAH! But I am not going to out the guy. He has lost enough to get a pass on this one.

JoeyA
 
Boston Joe

Boston Joey told me that he was jarred in powder form. He said that they somehow reduced it to a powder and put it on a stick of Juicy-Fruit gum...
He also told me that he gave a player ( well known, but now deceased ) a sip of his drink and the player spit the jar into Joeys drink.... Of course some good players think they must have been jarred every time they book a loser....
 
My first time in the Carolinas they brought me to a poolroom in Charlotte(probilliards?) to play a kid named the Jaybird. anyways they gave me a pill and said take this. Well I did and the pockets went like this shwoooooop(thats the sound if them opening way up big). I ended up beating him 2 sets rather quickly. I was about 18 at the time. Not sure what it was and I know it's not exacatly getting jarred but I thought I would share as I didn't know what I was taking.
 
Joey wasnt kidding

streak said:
Boston Joey told me that he was jarred in powder form. He said that they somehow reduced it to a powder and put it on a stick of Juicy-Fruit gum...
He also told me that he gave a player ( well known, but now deceased ) a sip of his drink and the player spit the jar into Joeys drink.... Of course some good players think they must have been jarred every time they book a loser....
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A well known Jar hustler named Johnny Morris (long deceased) was a specialist with the jarred chewing gum. He would load up the Juicy fruit or whatever, and lay it down near the table. Much of the time the victim would just reach over and grab a piece, if not, Johnny would offer one. He also jarred hamburgers and coffee pots. I personally got nailed with the spit in the coffee move by George Walker, when he was staking Poochy Sexton against me.

the Beard
 
Good advice Joey

JoeyA said:
Good advice all the way around but you have to do more than keep the bottled water close. A switched bottle can take all of two seconds. The bottled water is GOOD, just not jar proof. Just a heads-up for those who want to be wary. When I order a bottled water, I make sure it hasn't been opened. I tear the paper wrapper on the bottled water in a particular manner (which I shan't share at the moment :wink: ) when I am concerned and normally sit in front of someone I know isn't going to do me in.

JoeyA
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If I'm having a beer, I always mark it. In the 80's I ran a lot by myself, and rarely would drink anything at the places I went. This was especially true in some of the strip clubs, where all they had was draft beer and mixed drinks. If they had cans or bottled beer, I always insisted on watching them open it. If anyone I wasn't sure of was sitting close to my drink, I just walked away and bought another.
Peru Paul and another friend of mine were at a tournament one time, and Paul had a ton to drink as usual. He was matched up with a guy afterwards, and someone slipped something in Pauls drink. He had done lots of different drugs over the years, and knew someone slipped him something, even though he was drunk. After he beats the guy and wins the money, he walks over to the guys friends and says, " I'm not sure who did it, or what they slipped in my drink, but I'd like to buy some of it if there's any more around.". My friend just laughed at em". He said the expression on their face was priceless.
 
Note to self...

I will have to keep closer watch over my beverages from now on!

Rep for the interesting info Crawfish!
 
Jar-proofing 101

As one who often ran alone, I got nailed real good several times. Mostly in Texas and Okla., but kept my guard up any where. Luckily, none was as bad as Mike M.'s expierience, but a few times I had a real problem with double vision for a while after.
I did go off a few times behind it, it did render me pull-up proof.(but I've been that way, at times, on the square.)
I soon found a way to make myself jar-proof.
I like to drink just about anything but beer. In the 60's early 70's, in almost any strange joint, I would order the cheapest mixed drink they had, and never drink a drop of it.
I made sure they saw me pretend to sip on it, but when unnnoticed, I would spill some out on the floor, and order another one.
I always carried a small flask, and would go in the john a sneak a shot every once in a while (I do like a drink now and then :wink:)

Dick <----likes to have his cake (SoCo) and eat (drink) it too.
 
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No but I was canned once.
:D
Sorry couldn't resist and thank you for putting this out there so more people are more aware
Paul
 
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