Everest Tips

rchawks

rchawks

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I know someone who has a couple of Predator cues with Everest tips and is always complaining about how they cause miscues. Is this common with this brand of tip. The guy is an excellent pool player, I'm just wondering when ordering a predator shaft if I should consider a different type of tip.
 
To me, Everest tips are one of the best medium tips on the market.

I think I've only miscued 3 times in the 2 years that I've been using an Everest.

It's possible, of course, that he got the terrible luck of receiving a bad tip or two, but I've found that pool players (including myself sometimes) love to blame mishaps (or miscues) on everything else but themselves.
 
To each his own.. You are gonna have to see for yourself which tip YOU like, the only thing you can get on here is suggestions. Your friend who dislikes them may just be used to a different style of tip.

I personally dont like the Everest tips. I prefer a Medium Moori or Medium Brown Kamui. Go with whatever you are used to shooting with unless you want to try out different tips..
 
All just personal preferences.
99% of miscues just caused by a poor stroke or bad mechanics (jmho).
The few other reasons can be a *wrong shape* of the tip, very rare is miscue because tip wasn t chalked.
And sure every player also has a different style to stroke. But i m still sure and have the opinion, that tips not really cause miscues often.

Just try a tip- if it feels good, keep it and furthermore you should buy several more of this charge (some tips may vary a bit) and then you re on the safe side here in the future.

lg
Ingo
 
Bad Everest

I bought my wife a Predator shaft recently and she started to miscue badly after a few weeks of play. When she looked at the tip it had flattened out on one side so I had it replaced with a Kamui ,so she got a bad one.

Chris
 
rchawks said:
I know someone who has a couple of Predator cues with Everest tips and is always complaining about how they cause miscues. Is this common with this brand of tip. The guy is an excellent pool player, I'm just wondering when ordering a predator shaft if I should consider a different type of tip.
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Listen to your friend. The difference a good tip makes to your play is vast, and Everest's are not good tips. I miscued constantly with my 314. Not only that, the hit with an Everest is terrible. Quite what Predator are playing at by sticking such a poor tip on their shafts is anyone's guess. They must get them cheap.

Get yourself a Kamui black medium on the end of your cue. They are the most expensive tips on the market, with good reason. Few miscues, and the action they get on the cueball is unreal.
 
Ratta said:
All just personal preferences.
99% of miscues just caused by a poor stroke or bad mechanics (jmho).
The few other reasons can be a *wrong shape* of the tip, very rare is miscue because tip wasn t chalked.
And sure every player also has a different style to stroke. But i m still sure and have the opinion, that tips not really cause miscues often.

Just try a tip- if it feels good, keep it and furthermore you should buy several more of this charge (some tips may vary a bit) and then you re on the safe side here in the future.

lg
Ingo
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Disagree. Poor tips cause the majority of miscues, and there are a lot of poor tips around.
 
I had one on my OB-1 shaft that I liked. My Cuetec R-360 came with one on it that I liked. This 2nd R-360 shaft came with one and I don't like it. I wonder if they changed something on the tips lately? Johnnyt
 
OK,
to specify: If you really have such a bad sample of a tip, it s sure another case. I just can speak for myself and my experiences: And i ve never had such a bad tip, that i would say that i miscue caused by the tip. Just one tip made trouble, but just because it became terribble hard after just 2 weeks of playing (Moori M).
But if ppl (some only!) are not able to take care for their tip, to keep it in shape-- then it s not the materials fault, is it?

lg
Ingo
 
I can't recall ever finding the tip to be the cause when someone says they are miscueing. I have found out of shape tips, or worn out tips, but not defective tips to be the cause.

I can't count how many times the stroke or mechanics are found to be the cause of the miscue.

Certainly tips are a personal preference. I get to hear those preferences from all areas of the country, and I am amazed at how localized it is. Some areas like soft Mooris, some like Snipers and some like Elk Masters.

Basically you have to try different ones and choose for yourself. But, before you fault a tip for causing miscues, let someone else play with it and see if they have the same problem. Don't tell them why you want them to play with it, let them find it out for themselves. If they miscue as well, then look at your tip.

Other than needing to be replaced because it's worn out, or badly out of shape, I don't think miscues really come from the tip very often. I mean, if it grips the ball on one shot, then why not another?
 
RBC said:
Other than needing to be replaced because it's worn out, or badly out of shape, I don't think miscues really come from the tip very often. I mean, if it grips the ball on one shot, then why not another?
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Because the precise contact point on the tip is going to vary with each shot.

Tips also cause psychological problems. It is insufficient to say "let your buddy play with the cue and if he miscues too it's the tip". Bad tips play on your mind over a period of time.

I also think there needs to be a distinction between players and type of shot here. I will never even factor-in miscues not related to draw shots. I suspect many who comment on tips are unable to play shots where the likelihood of miscue is high, ie deep draw shots.
 
I'm a tipaholic and while I never had trouble with an Everest tip, I miscue from time to time. I can almost always attribute the miscue to pushing the limits of tip offset or a swerving my cue in some insane attempt to put more English on the shot.

I like trying different tips and my latest test comes from Kamui Black Soft. I often wish I had an endless supply of different tips along with a lathe to change them out regularly. For now, I will just work on straightening my stroke and keeping my tips in good shape and applying chalk before each shot.

The poor application of chalk to a tip is one of the main reasons people miscue imo.
 
RBC said:
I can't recall ever finding the tip to be the cause when someone says they are miscueing. I have found out of shape tips, or worn out tips, but not defective tips to be the cause.

I can't count how many times the stroke or mechanics are found to be the cause of the miscue.

Certainly tips are a personal preference. I get to hear those preferences from all areas of the country, and I am amazed at how localized it is. Some areas like soft Mooris, some like Snipers and some like Elk Masters.

Basically you have to try different ones and choose for yourself. But, before you fault a tip for causing miscues, let someone else play with it and see if they have the same problem. Don't tell them why you want them to play with it, let them find it out for themselves. If they miscue as well, then look at your tip.

Other than needing to be replaced because it's worn out, or badly out of shape, I don't think miscues really come from the tip very often. I mean, if it grips the ball on one shot, then why not another?
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Stop making so much sense:D. Johnnyt
 
I've been playing Everest tips for about 2 years now. I wouldn't use another tip. Anytime I miscue, which is very rare, it is due to poor stroke. Keep your tip shaped properly and the tip is most likely not the issue. Now you can get things in your head. Like the tip is the problem. Then you probably might as well get rid of it.
 
I've had great results with Everest tips. I've had probably 7 of them and only one needed to trimed flush with the ferrule after some extended use. I also really like the feel of them.
 
Been using Everest tips as well for the last year or two, probably on tip number 4 or 5 now and haven't had any problems other than slight mushrooming on one which I fixed. Don't think it's the tip (usually) that causes the miscue, usually it's the player, however if it doesn't feel right to you then you probably should try another tip.

Have heard good things about the Kamui tips, may try one of those next time, but I get confused over which one to try and which one would be similar in hardness etc. to the Everest. That's why I think I've kept putting Everest tips on, I play fine with them and I hate performing $30 experiments...

Scott
 
I personally don't like the Everest tips on Predator's. Little too hard. Predator makes great shafts though and it's easy enough to swap tips. They play great with Moori, Hirano, and Kamui. :cool:
 
last i heard, Mr.400 John Schmidt uses Everest, and he seems to do alright. but i think i saw him miscue. once.

i just got a used Predator QR2 -- thanks to j2pac here! -- with an Everest tip, after playing with a Moori medium for some months, and i like it better immediately, seems to grab better. but i think ultimately Royce is right (no surprise there).
 
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