Everest Tips

[Deadon]

Sorry, I was away from a puter for a while.

Here is the Tiger Laminated Cue Tips hardness chart:

Sniper - Med Hard
Everest - Med
Tiger Jump/Break - Very Hard
Tiger - Soft, Med, and Hard
Dynamite - Med Hard

Sniper is often mistaken for a softer tip. Mostly due to its superior grip; however, the Sniper is harder than the Everest.

Anyone that thinks a Sniper is a soft tip, hasn't tried to shape one. BTW, Corey, you were going to post a video of the trimming and shaping of a Sniper?

Both tips are excellent and play great. The Everest is a perfect match with the Z2, which is probably why they come that way.

Mike

 

[av84fun]

Hey its your cue...but I would NEVER recommend anyone using that function of the Ultimate tool...seriously. I'd be curious to see what condition your tips & ferrules are truly in now...feel free to post some close up pics.
If anyone needs to burnish their tip...unless you own a lathe it very hard to beat a dab of spit and a piece of brown cardboard. The cardboard won't damage your ferrule or cause your tip to pop off.

Thanks for the caution. However, I've used the Ultimate for roughly 10 years and a tip will last me the better part of a year (I LIKE them to get thin...just like Babe Cranfield did) and I have had several shafts over that period of time so, Id guess that I've used the tool on AT LEAST 20 tips.

I have used Moori mediums for most of that time but a few others as well and I have never had a tip pop off.

As for the tip condition...perfect is the only response I can give you...just zero problems of any kind.

Re: the ferrules, as you know the burnishing portion of the tool "Ys" out so the burnishing surface doesn't even come in contact with the ferrule except VERY near the tip...when used properly!

There is some minor scratching on my ferrule but the scratches are vertical, not horizontal, so they couldn't be caused by the tool. Virtually certainly, they were caused by the "SMOOTH" brand cue papers I use occasionally which are used in a vertical motion and I have certainly overrun the shaft up near the ferrule when using them.

But the scratches are hairline fine and clearly have not caused any structural problems with the ferrule. Personally, I could care less about the cosmetic appearance of the ferrule so it's just not an issue with me.

Regards,
Jim

 

[Murray Tucker]

What's your recomendation on the burnishing? In your install video at the end it shows a tip with a nice dark shiny edge which is what I think a new tip should look like. Unfortunatly it does not show how the tip got to that stage. Right now I accomplish that with some of the Tiger brown burnishing juice and a piece of leather. I'm carefull about not over doing it because of the heat.

Sorry, I was away from a puter for a while.

Here is the Tiger Laminated Cue Tips hardness chart:

Sniper - Med Hard
Everest - Med
Tiger Jump/Break - Very Hard
Tiger - Soft, Med, and Hard
Dynamite - Med Hard

Sniper is often mistaken for a softer tip. Mostly due to its superior grip; however, the Sniper is harder than the Everest.

 

[CrownCityCorey]

What's your recomendation on the burnishing? In your install video at the end it shows a tip with a nice dark shiny edge which is what I think a new tip should look like. Unfortunatly it does not show how the tip got to that stage. Right now I accomplish that with some of the Tiger brown burnishing juice and a piece of leather. I'm carefull about not over doing it because of the heat.

Burnishing is recommended. Our brown wax burnishing liquid works well. Always bear in mind that a laminated tip is more fragile during this process than a one piece. Grip it too tightly and sure enough the layers can be pulled apart.

I have yet to hear of heat build up from burishing causing the glue to fail. So, I would not be too concerned. Let the lathe speed do the polishing/burnishing for you.

 

[BPG24]

Sorry, I was away from a puter for a while.

Here is the Tiger Laminated Cue Tips hardness chart:

Sniper - Med Hard
Everest - Med
Tiger Jump/Break - Very Hard
Tiger - Soft, Med, and Hard
Dynamite - Med Hard

Sniper is often mistaken for a softer tip. Mostly due to its superior grip; however, the Sniper is harder than the Everest.

Glad that was cleared up... Thanks

 

[tedkaufman]

I've used both Snipers and Everest. Both are excellent tips. But the Sniper is unique among all the tips I've tried.

When a Sniper is first installed, it feels very soft, almost spongy; but it grabs the cueball like nothing I've ever seen. Play with it for a couple of weeks and it becomes more firm and doesn't hold extreme slow speed spin shots as well. However, once it firms up, it still feels softer than any other tip I've tried. The odd thing is about the Sniper, once broken in, it feels soft yet it holds its shape better than a truly hard tip. It requires almost no maintenence.

The Everest feels pretty soft upon initial installation, too. It will require more reshaping for the first couple of months. After that, it holds its shape very well. However, the Everest starts out feeling quite soft, but continues to firm up as its used. After 6 months of regular play, it feels much harder than a Sniper, despite the claims that it is a medium verses a med-hard rating for Sniper.

The Sniper definitely plays softer throughout its life than an Everest. The sound of the hit is softer with a Sniper, and when both are broken in for 6 months or so, the Sniper will grab the cueball better. To me, despite my fondness for the Everest tip, the Sniper is in a class by itself. It's the best tip I've ever used. Period.

 

[Varney Cues]

I've used both Snipers and Everest. Both are excellent tips. But the Sniper is unique among all the tips I've tried.

When a Sniper is first installed, it feels very soft, almost spongy; but it grabs the cueball like nothing I've ever seen. Play with it for a couple of weeks and it becomes more firm and doesn't hold extreme slow speed spin shots as well. However, once it firms up, it still feels softer than any other tip I've tried. The odd thing is about the Sniper, once broken in, it feels soft yet it holds its shape better than a truly hard tip. It requires almost no maintenence.

The Everest feels pretty soft upon initial installation, too. It will require more reshaping for the first couple of months. After that, it holds its shape very well. However, the Everest starts out feeling quite soft, but continues to firm up as its used. After 6 months of regular play, it feels much harder than a Sniper, despite the claims that it is a medium verses a med-hard rating for Sniper.

The Sniper definitely plays softer throughout its life than an Everest. The sound of the hit is softer with a Sniper, and when both are broken in for 6 months or so, the Sniper will grab the cueball better. To me, despite my fondness for the Everest tip, the Sniper is in a class by itself. It's the best tip I've ever used. Period.

My thoughts exactly. I could not of explained it any better. Rep for you Ted.

 

[tedkaufman]

Thanks, KV