Everest Tips

[SCCues]

I just received 2 new Predator 314 2nd generation shafts for my playing cue. I bought 2 blanks and sent them to my cue maker and he finished the shafts for me to match my cue. When I got the shafts back from the cue maker I was going to play pool that night and since i'm a die hard Moori tip fan I wanted to change the tips on my new shafts (I do cue repairs and I install my own tips) and replace the Everest tips that came on my shafts to Moori III Slow tips. I didn't have time to change the tips that day so I decided to give the Everest tips a try before I cut off perfectly good tips to install Moori tips.

I'm glad I decided to wait and give the Everest tips a try because I really like the way they play. I've used Moori tips for a long time and the Everest tips have impressed me and I'm planning on leaving them on my new shafts.

I just thought i'd pass this on to anyone who hasn't ever tried an Everest tip. You might want to give them a try one day.

James

 

[BVal]

I just received 2 new Predator 314 2nd generation shafts for my playing cue. I bought 2 blanks and sent them to my cue maker and he finished the shafts for me to match my cue. When I got the shafts back from the cue maker I was going to play pool that night and since i'm a die hard Moori tip fan I wanted to change the tips on my new shafts (I do cue repairs and I install my own tips) and replace the Everest tips that came on my shafts to Moori III Slow tips. I didn't have time to change the tips that day so I decided to give the Everest tips a try before I cut off perfectly good tips to install Moori tips.

I'm glad I decided to wait and give the Everest tips a try because I really like the way they play. I've used Moori tips for a long time and the Everest tips have impressed me and I'm planning on leaving them on my new shafts.

I just thought i'd pass this on to anyone who hasn't ever tried an Everest tip. You might want to give them a try one day.

James

I have an everest on one of my 314-2's right now and that is the only shaft I play with. I have on order some talisman pro M tips so I am going to try that on my other shaft. Currently on the other shaft is a Kamui soft but I don't like it very much. It is good to have an open mind - even if it is just because you didn't have time to close it

BVal

 

[av84fun]

I just received 2 new Predator 314 2nd generation shafts for my playing cue. I bought 2 blanks and sent them to my cue maker and he finished the shafts for me to match my cue. When I got the shafts back from the cue maker I was going to play pool that night and since i'm a die hard Moori tip fan I wanted to change the tips on my new shafts (I do cue repairs and I install my own tips) and replace the Everest tips that came on my shafts to Moori III Slow tips. I didn't have time to change the tips that day so I decided to give the Everest tips a try before I cut off perfectly good tips to install Moori tips.

I'm glad I decided to wait and give the Everest tips a try because I really like the way they play. I've used Moori tips for a long time and the Everest tips have impressed me and I'm planning on leaving them on my new shafts.

I just thought i'd pass this on to anyone who hasn't ever tried an Everest tip. You might want to give them a try one day.

James

Thanks for sharing James. Could you describe the specific characteristics of play that you like and that are different from the Moori!

Thanks!
Jim

 

[IanCt]

I have an everest on one of my 314-2's right now and that is the only shaft I play with. I have on order some talisman pro M tips so I am going to try that on my other shaft. Currently on the other shaft is a Kamui soft but I don't like it very much. It is good to have an open mind - even if it is just because you didn't have time to close it

BVal

I have a 314-2 shaft on my ivory jointed Rauenzahn and had a sniper put on, and absolutley love it, best tip so far in my book. I recently bought an ob1 shaft here on the forum for a great price brand new, which from my understanding comes with a Talisman med tip, played great for two nights, the third nite, was very hard, and I miscued several times, so I used my tip pik, and the top layer looked like it was starting to come off. I am just going to have a sniper put on it. I had an everest on a previous cue, and I would say the sniper and everest are similar, both great tips.

 

[BVal]

I have a 314-2 shaft on my ivory jointed Rauenzahn and had a sniper put on, and absolutley love it, best tip so far in my book. I recently bought an ob1 shaft here on the forum for a great price brand new, which from my understanding comes with a Talisman med tip, played great for two nights, the third nite, was very hard, and I miscued several times, so I used my tip pik, and the top layer looked like it was starting to come off. I am just going to have a sniper put on it. I had an everest on a previous cue, and I would say the sniper and everest are similar, both great tips.

I have used the sniper and the everest-both are very good tips. I am always willing to try everything to see if I like it. I mean how do you know unless you try it. I could be a clown and listen to what someone else tells me or I can try it myself. I am not inferring that you are calling me a clown or anything - I have just never been one to just take someones word for it without trying it myself. Thank you for sharing your experience.

BVal

 

[Juda4936]

Sniper

I used Everest for two years but had them changed every 2 months, I do not like the way they break down or the layers started coming off
Last year I started using Snipers and Wow,
They are supost to be a softer tip but to me they Sniper Plays a little Harder then the Everest and they last longer with out coming apart

If you just started using Everest They do play great (at first) but I would switch to a Sniper (same Maker)

Just my two cents

 

[BPG24]

I used Everest for two years but had them changed every 2 months, I do not like the way they break down or the layers started coming off
Last year I started using Snipers and Wow,
They are supost to be a softer tip but to me they Sniper Plays a little Harder then the Everest and they last longer with out coming apart

If you just started using Everest They do play great (at first) but I would switch to a Sniper (same Maker)

Just my two cents

Snipers are harder tips than Everests...

I don't understand how you guys use those really soft tips.. Everests etc...
I guess if you play on a bar table alot, a softer tip could be ok...

 

[Varney Cues]

Snipers are harder tips than Everests...

I don't understand how you guys use those really soft tips.. Everests etc...
I guess if you play on a bar table alot, a softer tip could be ok...

That is incorrect. Snipers are softer than Everest. Maybe Corey from Tiger can chime in here and confirm.

 

[BPG24]

That is incorrect. Snipers are softer than Everest. Maybe Corey from Tiger can chime in here and confirm.

Every Sniper I have played with has been harder than the Everest

If they claim that the Everest is harder than they may have quality control issues

 

[av84fun]

I have a 314-2 shaft on my ivory jointed Rauenzahn and had a sniper put on, and absolutley love it, best tip so far in my book. I recently bought an ob1 shaft here on the forum for a great price brand new, which from my understanding comes with a Talisman med tip, played great for two nights, the third nite, was very hard, and I miscued several times, so I used my tip pik, and the top layer looked like it was starting to come off. I am just going to have a sniper put on it. I had an everest on a previous cue, and I would say the sniper and everest are similar, both great tips.

What are the specific characteristics of the Sniper that you like?

THANKS!

 

[IanCt]

What are the specific characteristics of the Sniper that you like?

THANKS!

I like the feel of it, solid and grabby if that makes sense, nice sound, no hollow sound, retains chalk well, doesnt seem to delaminate, the glue between the layers doesnt seem to get in the way between layers. It has been my experience that sometimes a layered tip will begin to delaminate and becomes mushy or soft, or when reshaping the glue between layers gets funny. The sniper is firm, hard enough to get good action when you need it, but soft enough for good touch or control. It is the only tip I can play one pocket, straight pool, and nine or ten ball with. Just my two cents. Crown city Cory could probably elaborate a little more on the difference between the Everest and the Sniper, as well as the Sniper and other quality tips.
Regards,
Ian

 

[av84fun]

I like the feel of it, solid and grabby if that makes sense, nice sound, no hollow sound, retains chalk well, doesnt seem to delaminate, the glue between the layers doesnt seem to get in the way between layers. It has been my experience that sometimes a layered tip will begin to delaminate and becomes mushy or soft, or when reshaping the glue between layers gets funny. The sniper is firm, hard enough to get good action when you need it, but soft enough for good touch or control. It is the only tip I can play one pocket, straight pool, and nine or ten ball with. Just my two cents. Crown city Cory could probably elaborate a little more on the difference between the Everest and the Sniper, as well as the Sniper and other quality tips.
Regards,
Ian

Thanks Ian...just what I wanted to know. There has been a TON of commentary about the Sniper generating more spin and just as much debate about whether a tip contributes much, if at all, to causing more/less spin.

 

[CrossSideLarry]

Everest tips

I just thought i'd pass this on to anyone who hasn't ever tried an Everest tip. You might want to give them a try one day.

James

I agree with your assessment of everest tips. I too replaced my moori tips with everest and loved the results, especially the fact I could cue nearly off the ball and rarely experience a miscue. I have since tried Talisman Pro Tips and they respond almost identical. Now I am hooked on Sniper tips since I am playing bank pool exclusively and I have found no tip comes close to the sniper when trying to control english transfer on long rail banks.

Cross Side Larry

 

[BPG24]

That is incorrect. Snipers are softer than Everest. Maybe Corey from Tiger can chime in here and confirm.

Mr Varney you may want to know that according to Tiger's website You are wrong...

You were awful quick to correct me when you thought I was wrong... But you didn't actually check for yourself...

Snipers are Medium/Hard

Everests are Medium



it is my personal opinion that Everests play softer than other medium layered tips

 

[Fatboy]

That is incorrect. Snipers are softer than Everest. Maybe Corey from Tiger can chime in here and confirm.

He cant right now, he is racking the balls for me.

Truthfully i got my nuts shot off playing him....again I like Sniper tips he turned me on to them, the last Mooris I had kept getting flat and harder and harder.

 

[Varney Cues]

Mr Varney you may want to know that according to Tiger's website You are wrong...

You were awful quick to correct me when you thought I was wrong... But you didn't actually check for yourself...

Snipers are Medium/Hard

Everests are Medium



it is my personal opinion that Everests play softer than other medium layered tips

Well the last time I spoke to Corey he told me that the Sniper was softer. The only tip Tiger made softer than the Sniper was the Tiger-soft. The Everest was a step up in hardness levels. I've installed more than a 100 of each & hit balls with plenty of both so I have a firm opinion. I like a softer hitting tip...so believe me, I'd play with the one that hits softer. I play with a Sniper.
You can also use Mueller's tip hardness rating system:
65.3 - Tiger S
66.9 - Sniper
74.5 - Tiger M
75.1 - Everest
77.2 - Dynamite
81.0 - Tiger H
99.0 - Tiger J/B

 

[StormHotRod300]

SCCues

Well its good to hear you switch from moori's to a Tiger tip.

I too was a old Moori fan untill I had a couple tips goto shyt after scuffing them up with my It's George scuffer.

I then tried a Sniper and loved it!!! But I ended up selling my Gilbert back in September

But I then bought a new cue, and had a Tiger Soft tip put on the shaft and loved it!!! I like a softer tip, not sure why, but i just do.

Well a few weeks ago, I bought a McDermott I-1 Shaft, that came with a Moori Quick and at first I liked the tip, but then while I was playing at a tournament, I couldnt draw the Qball, well after the tourny, I put another Tiger Soft on the shaft and Bada Bing!!! I can draw the Qball again WOOOT!!!!!!

 

[BPG24]

Well the last time I spoke to Corey he told me that the Sniper was softer. The only tip Tiger made softer than the Sniper was the Tiger-soft. The Everest was a step up in hardness levels. I've installed more than a 100 of each & hit balls with plenty of both so I have a firm opinion. I like a softer hitting tip...so believe me, I'd play with the one that hits softer. I play with a Sniper.
You can also use Mueller's tip hardness rating system:
65.3 - Tiger S
66.9 - Sniper
74.5 - Tiger M
75.1 - Everest
77.2 - Dynamite
81.0 - Tiger H
99.0 - Tiger J/B

I kinda figured you would post something like that....

I have played with enough of them to know that every Sniper I have ever owned was harder than every Everest that I have had... Even when used on different shafts, i still found the same result... But no company is perfect and maybe there is a difference in each batch... I just don't see why Tiger would market a tip as Medium/Hard if it was Soft...

I too like the Sniper and it definately plays harder to me than most Meduim layered tips
WWW.Tigerproducts.com has all of them listed...

 

[lfigueroa]

I just received 2 new Predator 314 2nd generation shafts for my playing cue. I bought 2 blanks and sent them to my cue maker and he finished the shafts for me to match my cue. When I got the shafts back from the cue maker I was going to play pool that night and since i'm a die hard Moori tip fan I wanted to change the tips on my new shafts (I do cue repairs and I install my own tips) and replace the Everest tips that came on my shafts to Moori III Slow tips. I didn't have time to change the tips that day so I decided to give the Everest tips a try before I cut off perfectly good tips to install Moori tips.

I'm glad I decided to wait and give the Everest tips a try because I really like the way they play. I've used Moori tips for a long time and the Everest tips have impressed me and I'm planning on leaving them on my new shafts.

I just thought i'd pass this on to anyone who hasn't ever tried an Everest tip. You might want to give them a try one day.

James

Just got three shafts retipped with my very first Tiger Everest tips after years of using Mooris and being disappointed with them the last few years and I plan on ripping these Everest tips off as soon as I get anywhere near a decent cue mechanic -- brand new and they are delaminating like crazy.

I played with one for a few hours and had to switch to another shaft because the first tip started with a tapping noise. The second tip also started tapping. When I got home and could put on some reading glasses for a close look I could see what was going on and peeled off two layers of tip off the top that had started to separate. A few more hours of play and I had to peel off another two layers. I expect that I will lose an equal number of layers off the second shaft. Don't know about the third yet...

Lou Figueroa

 

[av84fun]

Just got three shafts retipped with my very first Tiger Everest tips after years of using Mooris and being disappointed with them the last few years and I plan on ripping these Everest tips off as soon as I get anywhere near a decent cue mechanic -- brand new and they are delaminating like crazy.

I played with one for a few hours and had to switch to another shaft because the first tip started with a tapping noise. The second tip also started tapping. When I got home and could put on some reading glasses for a close look I could see what was going on and peeled off two layers of tip off the top that had started to separate. A few more hours of play and I had to peel off another two layers. I expect that I will lose an equal number of layers off the second shaft. Don't know about the third yet...

Lou Figueroa

I am always interested in numerous posts that talk about delaminating of layered tips. I've played with a Moori Medium for at least 5 years and have never had one delaminate. I shoot the tip until it is worn WAY down.

However, I don't scuff much and when I do I use the Ultimate tip tool which doesn't have "pins" or "picks" but rather what I would call a circle with a grid of tiny "bumps": that you roll over the tip rather than tapping it.

Does the job and never a delamination problem. I've heard the rumors about a decline in Moori quality but I have never experienced it. Maybe I've just been lucky.

Regards,
Jim