Examples of tremendous "heart"

Yeah I am sorry.

Here's a good heart story for you.

It was 1989 and I am in Boca Raton at Boca Billiards. I have a couple hundred on me and I end up playing this guy some one pocket and I am getting tortured because I really didn't know how to spell one pocket and I was so stupid that I was giving up weight. The guy beats me out of $150 and I say I want to play nine ball for my last 50. He asks for weight and I am so on tilt that I agree and give him 2 games on the wire going to five. I win the first game and he wins the second and third to go on the hill.

Another guy who I had beaten out of $500 a few weeks before pipes up and says to me I bet $300 you lose. I say yeah genius it takes a lot of heart to bet that from here. I say to the guy I don't have any more money but I will bet my car. I am 30 miles from home.

He asks if I have the title and I say I do - it's a beater that I had bought jsut to have something to run around in before going into the Air Force.

He says BET.

My opponent breaks and the nine ball is heading straight for the pocket and gets kicked away at the last moment. I win that game.

4:2

Next game I break and shoot a few balls and miss and leave him a shot at a combo - he goes for it and rattles the nine. I shoot the nine in 4:3

Then the next game we go back and forth and I win it 4:4

The next game I break and don't run out and he runs a couple and doesn't get out but leaves me tricky. I get down to the nine and it's a long slightly off angle nine ball, the kind that's easy to miss especially under pressure.

I take a long time to pull the trigger. It's 3am and the tournament is over and we are the only ones playing - there are about 15 railbirds sweating the match.

Finally I let the shot go and the nine rattles and then drops.

My friend Frank says, "John I heard your heart beating all the way over here".

The guy I bet the $300 with doesn't want to pay me and threatens to beat me up over it. I go to the pay phone and call the police - I don't know what else to do in this spot and while I am on the phone the guy pays me.

So finally I make it out of the pool room and get in the car and go across the street to a gas station with an self-pay pump. As I am pumping the gas a car pulls up behind me and it's my opponent and his buddy. He walks over and says to me that he want's $150 of the $300 score AND the $50 back we bet in the set. I said why? He says because he dumped.

I said my ass you dumped. I said he tried to win and didn't get there. I reached in my car and pulled our a tire iron and said if you want the money then you'll have to take it because I earned it.

I was really pumped up on adreniline at this point. They backed down and left after muttering some threats.

That's one of my personal "heart" stories. I have a bunch more.

Dave Gross says to me that there is a fine line between heart and stupidity and that I stand right on it. He's right. Most of my heart stories involve going up against the nuts after I got myself stuck. But again the feeling after scoring in that position is out of this world.
 
John,

We made a game and conditions. As always you now want to change it and change it again. The truth is that you will not play me. You claim I have been an asshole to you. You whining to Eric that he has been an asshole to you was why you wouldn't play him when you were face to face is on video.(You do seem to have an anal fixation.)

I'm not chasing after you to play a game when you won't honor the first arrangement. Of course I knew that you wouldn't. As soon as I agreed you started wanting me to play somebody else instead of you. Revising history is your strong suite but you only fool yourself.

Hu

What game did we make? We didn't make a game. We don't have an arrangement.

Making a game means we have a time and place and the stakes agreed on.

We did none of that.

How utterly stupid are you? Really, I mean for someone who claims to be as savvy in the pool world as you do you are really quite dense.

Of course you won't agree to play me where you have to show up and be someplace on time with the money posted. Seems like when those conditions are asked for your nuts, like Eric's shrivel up into tiny appendages that a doctor couldn't find with the most powerful microscope on Earth.

As we say in the poolroom, come back when you get a heart transplant.
 
Yeah I am sorry.

Here's a good heart story for you.

It was 1989 and I am in Boca Raton at Boca Billiards. I have a couple hundred on me and I end up playing this guy some one pocket and I am getting tortured because I really didn't know how to spell one pocket and I was so stupid that I was giving up weight. The guy beats me out of $150 and I say I want to play nine ball for my last 50. He asks for weight and I am so on tilt that I agree and give him 2 games on the wire going to five. I win the first game and he wins the second and third to go on the hill.

Another guy who I had beaten out of $500 a few weeks before pipes up and says to me I bet $300 you lose. I say yeah genius it takes a lot of heart to bet that from here. I say to the guy I don't have any more money but I will bet my car. I am 30 miles from home.

He asks if I have the title and I say I do - it's a beater that I had bought jsut to have something to run around in before going into the Air Force.

He says BET.

My opponent breaks and the nine ball is heading straight for the pocket and gets kicked away at the last moment. I win that game.

4:2

Next game I break and shoot a few balls and miss and leave him a shot at a combo - he goes for it and rattles the nine. I shoot the nine in 4:3

Then the next game we go back and forth and I win it 4:4

The next game I break and don't run out and he runs a couple and doesn't get out but leaves me tricky. I get down to the nine and it's a long slightly off angle nine ball, the kind that's easy to miss especially under pressure.

I take a long time to pull the trigger. It's 3am and the tournament is over and we are the only ones playing - there are about 15 railbirds sweating the match.

Finally I let the shot go and the nine rattles and then drops.

My friend Frank says, "John I heard your heart beating all the way over here".

The guy I bet the $300 with doesn't want to pay me and threatens to beat me up over it. I go to the pay phone and call the police - I don't know what else to do in this spot and while I am on the phone the guy pays me.

So finally I make it out of the pool room and get in the car and go across the street to a gas station with an self-pay pump. As I am pumping the gas a car pulls up behind me and it's my opponent and his buddy. He walks over and says to me that he want's $150 of the $300 score AND the $50 back we bet in the set. I said why? He says because he dumped.

I said my ass you dumped. I said he tried to win and didn't get there. I reached in my car and pulled our a tire iron and said if you want the money then you'll have to take it because I earned it.

I was really pumped up on adreniline at this point. They backed down and left after muttering some threats.

That's one of my personal "heart" stories. I have a bunch more.

Dave Gross says to me that there is a fine line between heart and stupidity and that I stand right on it. He's right. Most of my heart stories involve going up against the nuts after I got myself stuck. But again the feeling after scoring in that position is out of this world.

after all that trouble you decide to go to the gas station across the street
 
after all that trouble you decide to go to the gas station across the street

Yeah, tell me about it. I was 20 and had never faced a situation like that and I was on fumes when I got to the tournament. Actually the gas station wasn't directly across the street, it was like a mile away next to the on ramp of the highway. But you're right, not far enough.

So from then on I always made sure I had plenty of gas in the car before walking in the pool room.
 
OOOOOoooo touchy touchy.. I changed a few names to protect the innocent....

I just want to hear some pool stories PLEASE.....
Nobody but you seems to know the stories you tell. The thing with pool is that usually there is someone who can say that they were there too.

But not with your stories. No one ever says, "I remember that" I was there too.

You were around all these champions, busting them, and no one remembers it but you.

Didn't you say you "owned" a well known Johnny Archer.

Oh wait you said that he won the first three games and then he never won another? Did you quit after three games? How long did you play? What were the stakes, where did you play? After all if Johnny was well known then someone must remember this. Or did you play in some shack out in the woods? Johhny came in and announced to you who he is and you didn't know him and proceeded to "own" him?

Is that how the story went? If you made it all up you can show some heart now and admit it. We will forgive you.

I wonder if Johnny remembers this "beating" you claim to have given him. That must have been a devastating loss to be "owned" by a no-name hack in the swamps of Louisiana. No wonder it took him several years to get his first big tournament win.

I think I am going to send an email to Johnny and ask him if he remembers this "owning". Those were your words right? You said you owned him? As in you dominated him, beat him down like a slave, completely demoralized him?

For such a "moral" man as you pretend to be on this forum don't you think that using words like "owned" is a bit pretentious? And how do you feel about your continued use of slander and defamation when addressing me?

So are so moral and correct but you resort to lies and innuendo when you are backed into the truth corner as if that will deflect attention enough from your fish tales about your glory days.

How did it feel to "own" another person?
 
Yeah, tell me about it. I was 20 and had never faced a situation like that and I was on fumes when I got to the tournament. Actually the gas station wasn't directly across the street, it was like a mile away next to the on ramp of the highway. But you're right, not far enough.

So from then on I always made sure I had plenty of gas in the car before walking in the pool room.

well jb the best thing happen u got out of there with all the money that was yours and the main thing your health but i bet the next time u went in a shady spot u check your gas tank
 
You two done trashing this thread for your own personal amusement yet?

Do I need to send you both to a corner for time out?

If I am asked to break you two up again, both will get some time off.
 
I will be at the Derby City Classic in January. If you will freeze up $5000 then I will play you a ten ahead session in one pocket for that amount of money.

I trust Lou Figueroa to hold the money.



OK, I'll hold.

Lou Figueroa
anyone know:
are there any strip clubs
around Louisville?
 
The men and women in the military 'just do' what they are 'ordered' to do.
They put their lives on the line because they have to, not because they want to.

A 3 time Vietnam Veteran

may have been true in Vietnam draft era , but everyone in todays military is there because they want to be . They volunteered for this , and
GOD BLESS THEM FOR IT !

USMC drug interdiction Columbia , Nicaragua , Panama
 
What's goin' on???

Have full mooners invaded this thread? Was just hoping for some good 'ol pool adventure stories...
 
Grady once said that tournament play does not compare with being two thousand miles from home. Having your entire bankroll ( including gas money)
bet on a race that is hill-hill and you're faced with a long, straight-in shot on the nine. You're playing on a shimmed nine foot table...the cue ball is six or seven inches from the end rail, maybe a foot from the side rail the and the nine is straight in just past the side pocket...what situations can you all think of that require more... HEART??? I'm sure there may be, but I'd like to hear some actual examples...should be interesting.

I don't think this is an example of heart at all. This is an example of nerves. It takes nerves of steel to face this situation/shot and make it, not heart. Heart is continuing to fight even though you're several racks down, and battle back to win the match. That's heart. Not giving up when it appears you're beat.
 
I am too lazy to look it up so here is my condensed version from Freddy B's book or Jay's book - one of them - Freddy's I think.....

The story goes that Bugs Rucker was the type of aggressive player who would always take shots that were low percentage for anyone else and make them and get out. So one day he is in a game and he is facing a shot where he can play safe or he can go for it and if he misses then he will lose. The backer is some sort of gangster and tells Bugs he will shoot him if he takes that shot.

Bugs looks at his backer and says you're gonna have to shoot me then and steps up to whack it in and get out for the cash.

Or something like that - get Freddy's books, Banking with the Beard and the Gospool - Get Jay Helfert's book - Pool Wars - Cornbread Red's book - Danny Dilibertos - and of course From Rags to Rifleman - Buddy Hall's story, if you want to read some great pool stories.

Feel free to correct me on the Bugs' story above as I am sure I have it wrong somehow.
 
Kinda ironic that people are acting like little *****es in the heart thread.

I hope you're not talking about me. I offered to freeze 5 dimes up against the nuts.

I have plenty of heart - more than what's good for me sometimes.

Which reminds me of another good heart story from the DCC - I need to look it it up so I don't have to type it again.
 
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