Excercise your eyes

BPG24...You'd be amazed at who comes to pool school...and it doesn't cost "a couple of grand". Of course, we know that the REAL improvement will come when you get that new cue (for $500-$1000:rolleyes: ). BTW, how much did you lay out for your golf clubs?

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

BPG24 said:
Pool school is definately out for me... As I am not trying to become a Pro...
 
BPG24 said:
This is an incredible post... I have been trying a few of them out and hopefully it is helping...

I have also noticed that on days that I am concentrating better, those are also the days that I see better... So what you said about the two of them tied together is probably correct...

ARE YOU KIDDING?????
 
Scott Lee said:
BPG24...You'd be amazed at who comes to pool school...and it doesn't cost "a couple of grand". Of course, we know that the REAL improvement will come when you get that new cue (for $500-$1000:rolleyes: ). BTW, how much did you lay out for your golf clubs?

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com


Honestly Scott, I probably have less in my golf clubs than anybody you know that is a 6 handicap or less... I have been exposed to buying/selling/trading golf clubs since I was just a boy... I play with a set of Mizuno irons that are from 1995 and I got them for free. Actually I bought a set of Callaways at a great price, flipped them in 4 hours and used the $110 profit to buy my Mizunos... I got most of my clubs this way, same as many do with cues...

Anyway... I almost went to pool shool about 5 years ago, I was considering becoming a BCA instructor and opening a pool room... But after doing research, I realized that pool rooms all over the country are suffering and I didn't want to book a loser...

A new cue can help your game for about a week. Any boost of confidence is good... But I know what you mean...
 
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Eye Exercise Book

Locate a copy of "Improve Your Vision Without Glasses or Contact Lenses" The American Vision Institute. A Fireside book published by Simon & Shuster. 1996.
Paper back, cost about 10.00. Well worth it. Good luck.
 
BPG24 said:
I play with a set of Mizuno irons that are from 1995

you just made me sick. i gotta find a new set of tp-9s..

on topic; i'll eye exercise tomorrow at the mall watchen all the mil*'s.

* as in watch
 
olauzon said:
you just made me sick. i gotta find a new set of tp-9s..

on topic; i'll eye exercise tomorrow at the mall watchen all the mil*'s.

* as in watch


If you can't find what you are looking for, let me know... I have been known to do find things for a small fee... :)
 
steveinflorida said:
Locate a copy of "Improve Your Vision Without Glasses or Contact Lenses" The American Vision Institute. A Fireside book published by Simon & Shuster. 1996.
Paper back, cost about 10.00. Well worth it. Good luck.


Thanks... I will look into it
 
All,

Eye exercise, IMO, is one of the quickest ways to improve your game outside hitting balls. Here is a post of mine from a few weeks ago where someone asked about improving "focus"..

Russ Chewning-The Mad C Player said:
It's hard to "focus on the little things" for extended periods of time. What to do? Practice focusing.

"Oh my!" some of you might say.. "Why didn't I think of that??" with a roll of the eyes..

What I mean, is practice focusing on small things. When you are driving to the pool hall, practice intently focusing on a license plate a hundred, two hundred feet away. When you eyes start getting tired, rest them for a few minutes and start again on something different.. Maybe a far off car's right mirror.

It sounds silly, but it develops the ability to focus on the very small details "at will". I think it's part of the reason why Johnny Archer notices every little speck on the table, because he is able to focus for a continuous 90 minute match. He is intently focusing wherever his eyes are looking.

If you think back to your last session of dead stroke, you probably were doing this also. So keep practicing intent focus on small stuff, and it will build up your mind/eye endurance.

Trust me.. Intense focus wears you out very quickly if you are nto used to it. Good luck.

(But what do I know? Ima C player... )

I never knew other people did this. I thought it was just one of those weird things I did that helped me personally. It is sort of humbling to think I stumbled upon something on my own that generations of competitors have used... :D

Russ
 
Quotes from HalHoule
"No Such Thing. See Your Oculist"
"Drills Never Come Up In Tournaments. Why Waste Your Time. Use Efrens Aming System."
"ARE YOU KIDDING?????"


I would appreciate it if you take your negativity somewhere else... Thanks
 
I just did the eye test from poster above and went from reading 344 words per minute to 517 wpm after a 4 minute training period, pretty cool except the course cost 14.95 for trial and 83.33 times three for the rest of the course and I'm broke by Santa Clause.

Leonard
 
curlyscues said:
and for those looking to correct their vison without surgery nasa has an answer.

http://www.nasa.gov/missions/science/contacts.html

M.C.

Thank you very much. I sent this link to two of my daughters who could derive much benefit from this idea.

It seems to me that eye training for playing pool would be best accomplished by training for the skill that is needed. In this context I placed a red dot cue ball as the Object Ball and cut a sheet of 8.5 X 11 inch paper down to a one inch strip. See Photo below

EyeTrain001.jpg


Jeanette Lee has said that one should try to see the smallest dot possible on the OB. Using the red Dot as the OB allows one to have a specified contact point to aim as needed. ( I am aware of the idea that aim point and contact point are not the same). The strip of paper shows the general line down which the OB is to travel. I left it one inch wide to allow the eye to learn the width of the line for "cheating" the pocket.

Playing this shot from several positions and distances on the table should help the eye to learn what is required.

This type of training should also help the mind to form an image of what is desired.

The astute player can now look at the smallest possible dot, the line of travel, and adjust the shot making for contact point while reviewing tip placement and it effect. I think that using this training mechanism might also help the player learn to stay down and watch the hit.

Speed reading, focusing on distant objects, and learning to track an object in flight are all of course good exercises. None-the-less, one of the best exercises has to be looking at the actual visual techniques that are used with training aids such as the red dot and the paper strip.

When I made this mechanism and tried it with a few shots I was surprised to note that the contact point and line of travel for the OB were not always what I at first thought it would be. In addition there is more room for error than is realized. Apparently the player does indeed learn to compensate physical reality for the eye's abilities and for perceptual shifts.

One of the things I have learned, after someone brought up the idea, is that players often stand behind the OB and view its line to the pocket. I think that this often (not always) provides a better localization of the contact point by establishing a reference point relative to some other aspect of the OB such as a stripe or number and its relative location to the contact point. This point does not change but is seen differently from behind the CB. Thus, the mind is naturally compensating for perceptual differences based upon relative location to the contact point. Any methods which help the eye and the mind to better coordinate physical reality must be useful.

It just occurred to me that placing the OB ball on a dot located 2 1/4 inches down the sheet of paper towards the pocket would be an even better method as the front of the paper would show the location of the center of the CB on contact. Thus it is also a ghost ball trainer (with its limited usefulness) and provides a realistic target and aim line for training the eye and mind to cooridinate the "real" world.
 
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Brownell's

BPG24 said:
I would like to know myself... I like adding to my collection


http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=9836&st=&s=

Twenty dollars plus shipping from Brownell's. Ask them for a catalog too, lot's of specialty tools and such of interest even if you don't fool with guns. The catalog is usually free with a purchase or four bucks without one last I knew or of course you can browse their net log. I still like to look through hard copy just looking for things I never knew I needed. :)

Hu
 
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Here is a revised photo

EyeTrain004.jpg


Talk about a work in progress -- Here is a better revision. The strip of white paper should be the width of the OB, 2 1/4 inches wide. A black line could be drawn down the middle of the strip. In this way the eye sees the actual path of the ball and the intended line of travel.

Some players might think of this as a technique for teaching beginners and indeed it could be used for such instructional programs. However, with some reflection it can be seen that such a technique is of much more use than that.

One of the things "advanced" players need to learn is to visualize the shots before they shoot. Such preliminary visualization is known to work in many other sports and it is not necessary to enumerate them here. In this sense, an advanced player could derive much benefit from such a training methodology because it provides a realistic image of the desired goal. Later, during a competitive situation, the player recalls the images learned rather than attempting to construct an imaginary image.

It is true that all memories are reconstructions however, reconstructing what has been seen is thought to be easier than constructing something that has never been seen.
 
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Another thought

A further addition to eye training might be considered. In general players talk about looking at the OB and then changing focus to the CB. It is thought that training is needed to learn to make these drastic shifts with the appropriate length of gaze and or using a "quiet eye" technique as discussed in a prior post per a journal (?) article by a BCA member. I am not sure that such a technique is the best or at least the only technique that can be acquired by a player.

Looking at the photo in my last post it can be seen that it is possible to "draw" an imaginary line with one's eye(s) from the pocket to the OB and from the OB to the CB. I suspect that the player does this with more or less awareness of the process.

Consider the OB - CB line for a moment. It is not "necessary" to drastically shift one's focus from one point to another. Such a drastic shift may not be conducive to creating the best line of travel. With some effort, it is possible to slowly move one's eye from the OB to the CB and thereby trace an imaginary track or line for the CB. I assume that one begins the aiming process by looking at the OB and determining the point of contact. The line that is drawn may be to the edge of the CB, the center of the stick or some other mechanism preferred by a particular player. In all cases the intent is to establish the line of travel for the CB

Unlike other sports, when playing pool one is not required to rapidly shift focus and indeed it might be beneficial to slowly alter one's focus as a track line is created by the eye(s). Such a line is constructed and placed in short term memory. In this sense, one needs to learn to gradually shift eye focus from one point to another. Currently, I do not see any reason why this needs to be a rapid or jerky process. A gradual, continuous process may lead to more accuracy as the line of travel is intentionally placed in short term memory rather than as a by-product of reviewing a shot.

When focusing on the CB the intent is to determine that the CB will be struck as intended and with the slowly draw line one has a better (?) sense of that line of travel for the CB.

This supposition could be tested in any of several formats that would allow one to determine if it improved one's ability to place the OB in a pocket.
 
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ShootingArts said:
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=9836&st=&s=

Twenty dollars plus shipping from Brownell's. Ask them for a catalog too, lot's of specialty tools and such of interest even if you don't fool with guns. The catalog is usually free with a purchase or four bucks without one last I knew or of course you can browse their net log. I still like to look through hard copy just looking for things I never knew I needed. :)

Hu


Thank you very much sir
 
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