I saw a Facebook post today from Oscar mentioning how deflection is exaggerated at the Mosconi Cup due to the new slick cloth. I've never heard of this before. Can anyone explain what's going on here? I guess I don't understand how cloth can affect the amount of deflection.
Extra Deflection on Mosconi Cup Table??
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I've played on new cloth many times and I've never noticed any difference in deflection. I didn't even know this was a thing until now.
i can see with slick cloth the cb 'might' squirt a tiny bit more but not enough to worry about.
Well, Nathan Wallace is a very strong player (731 fargo) and Oscar is obviously a pro. Are you claiming they are delusional?
Ability to pocket balls does not mean the science is understood.
New cloth is slippery and plays differently as it ages. Known fact.
And what kind of table is the Mosconi Cup being played on?
They aren't playing on my new Diamond Professional, are they???
They aren't playing on my new Diamond Professional, are they???
There are 2 parts to deflection
a) what happens at the point of contact
b) what happens as CB rolls down table
a) does not change with "newness" of the clothe
b) can change with friction of clothe and even with humidity in the room.
a) what happens at the point of contact
b) what happens as CB rolls down table
a) does not change with "newness" of the clothe
b) can change with friction of clothe and even with humidity in the room.
never said that . don't put words in my mouth. i've played on new cloth a gillion times in the last 40odd yrs. Never noticed the ball squirting more. the slickness 'might' allow the ball to go down the squirt line a tad quicker but again, its gonna be tiny. first time we've heard a player make this claim so i'm still a lil dubious as to just what he said/meant.
Somebody ask him what he means. Vernacular clouding...
Pretty obvious, new cloth has less resistance to the forces at hand.
The squirt angle would be the same but the ball speed on new cloth would be higher. My wag is this is what he's seeing. Not so much more but faster squirt. that's what she said anyway.
if you've never hit balls on a fast TV lit table its hard to describe. i hit balls on the tv table at derby one year and that thing was literally like a sheet of glass. so much different than the outer tables it was hard to believe.
He's exaggerating things a bit for drama. Follow don't work?? In what dimension is this table??
Overdraw?? One can only wish.
4" is tough, but ...Who's this Wallace cat talking about deflects?? Must be good. One of them overthinkers.
Poking fun Nat!!
The squirt angle would be the same but the ball speed on new cloth would be higher. My wag is this is what he's seeing. Not so much more but faster squirt. that's what she said anyway.
Hope your wrong about that, but it does appear that way.
i still think what he's seeing is the speed of the ball. the deflection angle is the same but how fast it starts down that line i'm sure is fast as hell on that table.
I haven’t played on a TV table.
I did play at the 2010 World Teams Championships, and all the tables had a really slick and fast cloth (wasn’t Simonis), the balls were sliding on it as if we were playing on ice. Really tough conditions. But I did not feel added deflation.
So, let me ask again.
What table is the Mosconi Cup being played on???
What table is the Mosconi Cup being played on???