Fake OB-2 shaft?

RDaniel13

RDaniel13

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First off, i get home today to this poorly packaged piece of shit. :mad:
The package is beat the **** out of, i don't touch it, i immediately go get my video camera and record it outside, me taking it inside, and opening it up.
I open the package up and this is what is inside....
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Luckily the shaft is not warped or broken, as far as i can tell. But i started comparing it to my OB-2 i bought brand new from a authorized reseller on the bay. My OG shaft is the one on the right in the pics
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As you can see in the pictures, not only is the wood color off, (which i can understand) but the shaft OB-2 stamp is not as dark as my other and the shaft i just received is shorter (by about a 1/4", look at the ferrules!! than the one i bought from an authorized reseller whom i trust). If they are the same shaft, shouldn't they be the same length?? :confused:

Wanted to know from the guys who may know more about these shafts... Should i be worrying about this or am i just overreacting?
This was the thread i posted a couple days ago when i started worrying the guy wouldn't even ship me this....
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=218655
 
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I think it is not a fake..just by looking at it. Better test it at the table if it plays the same.:)
 
Doesnt look fake.
Besides, who would want to fake an OB-Shaft to such a detailed extent?

its too much work to do the following:
get laminated maple veneers
cut them to dowels
cut a long notch on each of the dowels
glue the dowels together
taper them
bore a hole through out the shaft
insert sound dampening foam
install 6" balsa core in the tip end
make and install ferrule
install tip and pad
install collar and pin insert
and apply label/finish.

If you're going to do all that to fake an OB shaft, might as well work for them as a contract manufacturer.
 
Don't know much about these but maybe confused. The short one looks like it's used from height of the tip not to mention the chalk. Its possible that a shipment got misdirected. Other than that I think your attention to detail is greater than theirs. Too bad if that's the case. For the price and reputation they want, you'd think they'd pay attention.
 
There is also the question of if both shafts were sold from OB with the joint, or if one was sold as a partial and the joint/ringwork was done by someone else.

As for the wood color, different batches of wood will have different colors. Also, it could be the length difference is due to changes they made over time and they were made a bit of time apart.

Hopefully Royce from OB will chime in on here. If he doesn't, you may want to send him a PM as he normally is pretty good about commenting on any OB related posts.

Brian
 
I had an OB that had similar partial fading or whatnot where the symbol is stamped. The one you just got prob had the OB logo printed on with a different ink or paint or something that just doesn't hold up as good or stick as well prior to or during the clearcoat process... I'd have to agree that if someone was faking a shaft, that to fake an OB would be the worst shaft to copy considering the costs involved :)
 
The reason for the length difference could be because the ferrule was broken and then sent back to OB to be fixed, you bought it used, and on ebay, so that is the risk you take sometimes to get a deal.

By the way, how much did you pay for it?

JIMO
 
I don't think it's fake either. I've seen that blurry logo stamp on my OB shaft too while the other is very clear. And I bought both of them brand new. The length, I agree with Craig, it could've been repaired already being a "used" shaft.
 
Rdaniel

I too don't think you have a fake OB2. Most of the posters have stated that it would be tough to do for the price, and they're right! It's allot of work to build our cue shafts. lol!

As for the wood color, yes they do vary with the supply of material that we get. The logo too is not that far off.

I don't know about the length issue. Sometimes, a tip will get replaced and the Carbon Fiber Pad will be removed. The Carbon Fiber Pad is necessary for our maple ferrules. If it gets removed, the ferrule will start to spread or mushroom. Since the pad has been removed, it's not a warranty issue, so often the owner will just have it cut a little shorter, and a new Carbon Fiber Pad installed. We can fix them without shortening them, and it's pretty economical too. But not everyone sends them back to us.

Anyway, it should still play lights out so I wouldn't worry about it. Just screw it on your cue and have some fun.

If you still have more questions, don't hesitate to call us. Our hours of operation are 8 to 5 weekdays. The number is 877-399-9901.

Shoot well!
 
not a fake!No one in their right mind would even try to fake one!!
and its only the thickness of the pad shorter,which could be the product of a(few) tip/pad replacements.....I know people that buy shafts new and go through 5-6 tips in a month trying to find just the right combo to their liking.......
 
You can contact Royce directly I'm sure he can clear up this issue. As for the packaging, i'm surprised they were not broke. Those shipping packages from usps are pretty crappy. We use structural shipping tubes never have had a problem. Good luck!
 
I don't think it's a fake.As far as the length goes,if it was made by someone from a partial,this could be the reason it is shorter.The shaft may have been changed from the original to fit a different cue.It could have been cut off for the new collars and insert.Hope this added a little light on the subject.

Steve
 
Twisted Turtle said:
You can contact Royce directly I'm sure he can clear up this issue. As for the packaging, i'm surprised they were not broke. Those shipping packages from usps are pretty crappy. We use structural shipping tubes never have had a problem. Good luck!
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Royce already responded:rolleyes:
 
RBC said:
Rdaniel

I too don't think you have a fake OB2. Most of the posters have stated that it would be tough to do for the price, and they're right! It's allot of work to build our cue shafts. lol!

As for the wood color, yes they do vary with the supply of material that we get. The logo too is not that far off.

I don't know about the length issue. Sometimes, a tip will get replaced and the Carbon Fiber Pad will be removed. The Carbon Fiber Pad is necessary for our maple ferrules. If it gets removed, the ferrule will start to spread or mushroom. Since the pad has been removed, it's not a warranty issue, so often the owner will just have it cut a little shorter, and a new Carbon Fiber Pad installed. We can fix them without shortening them, and it's pretty economical too. But not everyone sends them back to us.

Anyway, it should still play lights out so I wouldn't worry about it. Just screw it on your cue and have some fun.

If you still have more questions, don't hesitate to call us. Our hours of operation are 8 to 5 weekdays. The number is 877-399-9901.

Shoot well!
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Wireless router took a crap on me, so i haven't been able to get on here for a couple days.... Thanks for chiming in on this royce.

It does not look like the ferrule has been cut down or modified, if i align the 2 shafts form the ferrules, they are the same length, but the shaft itself is longer in the one i just received. The seller i purchased it from on ebay said he was a friend of yours and you made the shaft for him. In the auction it stated it was 2 months old.

The shaft plays fine, i was just POed when i saw how beat the package was from shipping, and then when i started to compare the 2 shafts, my thinking just started going downhill.
 
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