fargo ratings aren't very good or accurate

I am not sure why you say dose of reality. Lots of people know how they match up with players in their area.



There is a big difference between 200 games and 1,000 games.



Mike has said 200 games is enough to establish a rating.



Why would you say it is hard to rate someone without watching thousands of games?



I have seen thousands of games in my area and it appears to be accurate for the 690+ players but everyone else is all over the place.



If I see a tournament advertised as below 580 with minimum 200 games and then get there and they say "Sorry, you play better than that. Have a nice drive home." I am going to be really upset.



People seem to over estimate their own abilities and it is an eye opener to know where you really are.

Accurate for 690+ and not the others? I don't know how you can come to that conclusion. The 690 uses the same formula as the 300 and they are connected through games in the system.

Mike can answer your question. He explains things beautifully




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No, you are lazy. L-A-Z-Y. Sorry that the truth hurts. Go to the Fargo website and read about it. There are a ton of videos explaining the system. We have been discussing Fargo for an entire year on AZB. Why do people feel that they are entitled to be spoon fed info?

If you really want to speak to Mark or Mike about Fargo DO NOT USE FACEBOOK. Call or email them. Their contact info is very easily obtained if you would just go to their websites.

People always want to justify their rude behavior online when in real life they would never say this. I guarantee if you met Steve and knew more about him, "lazy" would be one of the last words you used to describe him. He might be one of the hardest working guys in the pool world I know. I think i might have asked him at least 3 times in person how in the world he actually is able to do what he does for a living at his age.

Steve plays super, especially on a bar table, but to say he is the 18th ranked person in the USA is absurd when he works full time in a very physically demanding job. I would rate him really high up on the list of USA amateur players and on that list he absolutely deserves to be rated in the top 20.

You know, instead of just belittling the guy and acting all superior because you happen to be well informed on the subject, you could have just quickly said to him that there is very little data in the fargo system on him and that once he plays in more events his rating will level off closer to his true handicap.
 
That's exactly what can happen. My buddy begged me to go last year because someone who played his speed would have to give me a spot they couldn't possibly win with. I play about the 8 under what the OP Steve plays and an APA 6 would have to give me a ridiculous spot. So how isn't that Flawed? I'm not into robbing tournaments, I'd rather gamble, but there are plenty ready to robb the tournament.

Lolololololol:rotflmao:
 
People always want to justify their rude behavior online when in real life they would never say this. I guarantee if you met Steve and knew more about him, "lazy" would be one of the last words you used to describe him. He might be one of the hardest working guys in the pool world I know. I think i might have asked him at least 3 times in person how in the world he actually is able to do what he does for a living at his age.

Steve plays super, especially on a bar table, but to say he is the 18th ranked person in the USA is absurd when he works full time in a very physically demanding job. I would rate him really high up on the list of USA amateur players and on that list he absolutely deserves to be rated in the top 20.

You know, instead of just belittling the guy and acting all superior because you happen to be well informed on the subject, you could have just quickly said to him that there is very little data in the fargo system on him and that once he plays in more events his rating will level off closer to his true handicap.

Maybe he is the 18th best player.

It's not like America is churning out champions left and right.
 
People always want to justify their rude behavior online when in real life they would never say this. I guarantee if you met Steve and knew more about him, "lazy" would be one of the last words you used to describe him. He might be one of the hardest working guys in the pool world I know. I think i might have asked him at least 3 times in person how in the world he actually is able to do what he does for a living at his age.

Steve plays super, especially on a bar table, but to say he is the 18th ranked person in the USA is absurd when he works full time in a very physically demanding job. I would rate him really high up on the list of USA amateur players and on that list he absolutely deserves to be rated in the top 20.

You know, instead of just belittling the guy and acting all superior because you happen to be well informed on the subject, you could have just quickly said to him that there is very little data in the fargo system on him and that once he plays in more events his rating will level off closer to his true handicap.

He also coulda used a different title for the thread, or did a search. Just sayin
Jason
 
That's exactly what can happen. My buddy begged me to go last year because someone who played his speed would have to give me a spot they couldn't possibly win with. I play about the 8 under what the OP Steve plays and an APA 6 would have to give me a ridiculous spot.[...].

Begged you to go where? I know of no big handicapped tournament he might have been referring to.
 
People always want to justify their rude behavior online when in real life they would never say this. I guarantee if you met Steve and knew more about him, "lazy" would be one of the last words you used to describe him. He might be one of the hardest working guys in the pool world I know. I think i might have asked him at least 3 times in person how in the world he actually is able to do what he does for a living at his age.

Steve plays super, especially on a bar table, but to say he is the 18th ranked person in the USA is absurd when he works full time in a very physically demanding job. I would rate him really high up on the list of USA amateur players and on that list he absolutely deserves to be rated in the top 20.

You know, instead of just belittling the guy and acting all superior because you happen to be well informed on the subject, you could have just quickly said to him that there is very little data in the fargo system on him and that once he plays in more events his rating will level off closer to his true handicap.


NO, no, no!! In the time it took Steve to create and post his wish to lay back and be spoon fed information that is more than readily available, he could have done a simple search and gotten the Fargo enlightenment.

I am making an example of Steve because, well because he is an excellent player and we need more players like him to be knowledgeable about the best thing to come along for pool in a long time. Hopefully the next time he has a question about something he takes the few seconds necessary to see if that question has already been answered.
 
Well here's some news! Most professional pool players and anyone else who can draw their rock thinks it's a F****** Joke! The BCA along with any other tournament will go to hell in a hand basket using this flawed system of ranking players. Just because 10 people have come on here and stood up for Fargo does not mean the majority of players like it. Keep on protecting your system and we'll sit back and laugh as the attendance to Fargo rated tournaments plummets! The system Sucks!!!!! And we're allowed to have that opinion sir.

I challenge you to name ONE
 
Bca nationals wasn't a fargo rated tournament?


WELL LOOK AT THAT.

You come on this thread and bash a rating system that you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about then you have no idea that one of the largest tournaments in the world is NOT a handicapped tournament.

Just another example of someone being too lazy to read and comprehend.

Clearly you are someone who doesn't care about league play or the welfare of league players so this will be one of the last times I waste my time and effort talking to you.

Have a happy holiday season.
 
WELL LOOK AT THAT.

You come on this thread and bash a rating system that you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about then you have no idea that one of the largest tournaments in the world is NOT a handicapped tournament.

Just another example of someone being too lazy to read and comprehend.

Clearly you are someone who doesn't care about league play or the welfare of league players so this will be one of the last times I waste my time and effort talking to you.

Have a happy holiday season.

Not in games however it is divided by rate ,, so as we witnessed last yr a better player can drop into the lower division and win ,

1
 
WELL LOOK AT THAT.

You come on this thread and bash a rating system that you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about then you have no idea that one of the largest tournaments in the world is NOT a handicapped tournament.

Just another example of someone being too lazy to read and comprehend.

Clearly you are someone who doesn't care about league play or the welfare of league players so this will be one of the last times I waste my time and effort talking to you.

Have a happy holiday season.

I also apologized for being wrong on that aspect and I could give Two Flying shits about you. Your nothing but a ball banging leaque ***** who couldn't beat me playing anything. I don't give a **** about you or Fargo Rating so eat one buddy.
 
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