Fastest Break Speed Ever Recorded?

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Isn't the fastest break around 30mph? I wonder that if Bruce Lee were alive, if he could use his inner "chi" to break the balls 10x as hard. That would rule.
 
LastTwo said:
Isn't the fastest break around 30mph? I wonder that if Bruce Lee were alive, if he could use his inner "chi" to break the balls 10x as hard. That would rule.
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Howdy,

31.5 miles per hour by Sammy Jones( husband of Loree J.Jones) and 31 miles per hour by David Howard of Jacksonville,florida.cheers
Vagabond
 
LastTwo said:
Isn't the fastest break around 30mph? I wonder that if Bruce Lee were alive, if he could use his inner "chi" to break the balls 10x as hard. That would rule.
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I've been watching Lee in his last movie where he is interviewed several times. I love his quote about water, as I believe it can be applicable to pool. As I remember it:

Be like water.
It is soft yet it carves rock.
You cannot smash it.
When water is put in a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
When water is put in a bottle, it becomes the bottle.
It can flow or it can crash!
Be like water, my friend.

Another:

Apply pliable adaptability so change is no change.

And my favorite:

Martial arts is Honestly Expressing Yourself.

Which I changed for pool....see how you like it:

You can use someone's stroke or style, but it will be fleeting if it does not arise from your honest self. Thus, by first correcting the self, you correct style will follow.

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
You can use someone's stroke or style, but it will be fleeting if it does not arise from your honest self. Thus, by first correcting the self, you correct style will follow.

Jeff Livingston
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You gonna pass that joint or what?

-pigo:cool:
 
chefjeff said:
I've been watching Lee in his last movie where he is interviewed several times. I love his quote about water, as I believe it can be applicable to pool. As I remember it:

Be like water.
It is soft yet it carves rock.
You cannot smash it.
When water is put in a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
When water is put in a bottle, it becomes the bottle.
It can flow or it can crash!
Be like water, my friend.

Another:

Apply pliable adaptability so change is no change.

And my favorite:

Martial arts is Honestly Expressing Yourself.

Which I changed for pool....see how you like it:

You can use someone's stroke or style, but it will be fleeting if it does not arise from your honest self. Thus, by first correcting the self, you correct style will follow.

Jeff Livingston
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ass-ole grasshopper....... ;)
 
LastTwo said:
Isn't the fastest break around 30mph? I wonder that if Bruce Lee were alive, if he could use his inner "chi" to break the balls 10x as hard. That would rule.
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The highest speed I've heard of was 17 meters/second (38MPH) reported by Bob Callahan, who originally suggested the speed measurement technique reported in Byrne's "Advanced Technique" book. That was achieved by a martial arts student. (I'll have to unearth my notes, because I also have it listed as 35MPH.)
 
piglit said:
You gonna pass that joint or what?

-pigo:cool:
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Ha ha. Far out and solid, groovy guy.

Actually, my post was supposed to be serious. If anyone knows me, they know that I work on integrating honesty as fully as possible into every thought and action I create.

This integration requires mostly eliminating the b/s first, before adding anything.

That's how I learned to play good pool. I did not first go learn the "right" way to play; I first learned to examine my self and then dismiss the wrong ways one at a time. This is a dynamic system, not static and requires more looking inward than out.

That's why "change is no change" for me. It's also reflective of my reasons for playing. If I were to play just for money, for example, I'd stick with what works at the time because the immediate gain would be my goal. But no, I have other reasons which require me to constantly integrate new information while still playing the same or better than before. Thus, my focus on playing better over the long run, not necessarily winning at the time.

But I want to win, so I've also integrated Einstein's fourth dimension, time, into my shot. This allows me to go for my main goal, while still going for the win. Time is integrated by a necessary recognition: I am always at THIS shot...ALWAYS...not the last shot, this shot...ALWAYS.

Once I have integrated this, I then can use the 'now' as the center point of my playing, while examining and honestly integrating the past and accurately preticting the future, becasue I have the power to create it.

I don't mean to sound mystical at all. In fact, I think mysticism is DIShonest (that's another discussion). I didn't just come up with these thoughts overnight or during a bowl. I've worked on this type of thinking for decades. It wasn't until about 1994 that I understood their power for playing sports, in our case, pool.

Jeff Livingston
 
Bob Jewett said:
The highest speed I've heard of was 17 meters/second (38MPH) reported by Bob Callahan, who originally suggested the speed measurement technique reported in Byrne's "Advanced Technique" book. That was achieved by a martial arts student. (I'll have to unearth my notes, because I also have it listed as 35MPH.)
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I've also heard about the 38 mph break, but have no idea whether it's true.
The fastest break I am aware of was 33 mph by Frankie Hernandez of NYC.
 
Has anybody in the pool world ever used a cannon of sorts to break at a really high speed---like Jack Kohler or Jewett or someone? Or has a baseball pitcher ever thrown a cueball at the rack and seen what happens at 100 mph? Do you suppose it's possible to pocket 15 balls on the break if the speed is high enough? Or would the balls disintegrate at a certain speed?

Jeff Livingston
 
OK, i would like to know how your suppose to keep the Cue ball on the table with a break speed around 30mph?

Now the last Mens tournament on TV ( that i watch'd) they had Archer's break speed clocked at around 20-22mph. And i thought that was pretty good.

But i said something to a friend of mine, and he replied that on the mens tour, a good medium break is around 22mph lol.
 
I heard john K. hit them like 34-36 mph in vegas about 4to 5 years ago and larry nevel was like 32.
 
StormHotRod300 said:
OK, i would like to know how your suppose to keep the Cue ball on the table with a break speed around 30mph?

Now the last Mens tournament on TV ( that i watch'd) they had Archer's break speed clocked at around 20-22mph. And i thought that was pretty good.
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When I was watching Sammy Jones and another 30MPH breaker in a break speed test at a BCA Trade Show, the result was that the cue ball was often not staying on the table a large part of the time. And if the balls are tight, you don't need that much speed to make the wing ball.

A 30 MPH break has twice the energy as a 20 MPH break, so that balls will travel roughly twice as far, if they don't hit a rail. If they do hit a rail, they lose about half their speed. This means that break speed will make a lot of difference in getting balls to the first cushion, but will have less effect on getting balls to hit the second and third cushion.
 
Bob Jewett said:
When I was watching Sammy Jones and another 30MPH breaker in a break speed test at a BCA Trade Show, the result was that the cue ball was often not staying on the table a large part of the time. And if the balls are tight, you don't need that much speed to make the wing ball.

A 30 MPH break has twice the energy as a 20 MPH break, so that balls will travel roughly twice as far, if they don't hit a rail. If they do hit a rail, they lose about half their speed. This means that break speed will make a lot of difference in getting balls to the first cushion, but will have less effect on getting balls to hit the second and third cushion.
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I remember that...he was breaking against my friend Audie Wallace. There was definitly some ducking going on!
 
Bob Jewett said:
When I was watching Sammy Jones and another 30MPH breaker in a break speed test at a BCA Trade Show, the result was that the cue ball was often not staying on the table a large part of the time. And if the balls are tight, you don't need that much speed to make the wing ball.

A 30 MPH break has twice the energy as a 20 MPH break, so that balls will travel roughly twice as far, if they don't hit a rail. If they do hit a rail, they lose about half their speed. This means that break speed will make a lot of difference in getting balls to the first cushion, but will have less effect on getting balls to hit the second and third cushion.
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Is there a real champion player that has a 30 mph break shot or are most of the champions just hitting the rack with controlled accuracy and some power????
 
According to Rude Dog's friend, who never lies, Rude Dog hits the rack about 220 mph.

Lunchmoney
 
Well, I've never seen Rude Dog's 220 mph break shot, but I think that might actually destroy a one ball....
 
ceebee said:
Is there a real champion player that has a 30 mph break shot or are most of the champions just hitting the rack with controlled accuracy and some power????
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All of the speed tests I know of are not in acual matches. Are there tournaments where they monitor break speed (like for pro baseball baseball pitchers)?
 
I have heard that Lee Heuwagon can hit them in the 32 mph range consistently. I have seen balls on a radar at over 31 mph and at that time it was by an 18 year old.
 
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