Feedback for a new cue case maker

jimM

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Please give me feed back on my cue cases. I'm a new cue case maker. I have been manufacturing holsters and quivers for about 7 years. I have tried to put the same quality into these cases as in my holsters and quivers. I would like to hear any comments that you may have. Thank you all very much.

Jim Murnak http://www.jimmurnakcuecases.com
 
jimM said:
Please give me feed back on my cue cases. I'm a new cue case maker.

Sure thing Jim. Ship me a free one and I'd love to tell you what I think about it ;-)

Seriously though, your cases look very nice, but you may want to consider restructuring your pricing until you build up a reputation. This is a common problem when people enter a specialist business like billiards, they look at the prices established manufacturers charge for similiar items and match that. I am not saying your cases are not built equally as well as a Justis or a Whitten (at least until I get that free one you are sending me!), just that if I had $400-$800 to spend on a high-end leather case I'd be inclined to choose a manufacturer with a known reputation in the industry.

As Marissa says you have a top pro who's a fan of your cases you may want to consider some kind of sponsorship arrangement to get your name known.
 
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jimM said:
Please give me feed back on my cue cases. I'm a new cue case maker. I have been manufacturing holsters and quivers for about 7 years. I have tried to put the same quality into these cases as in my holsters and quivers. I would like to hear any comments that you may have. Thank you all very much.

Jim Murnak http://www.jimmurnakcuecases.com

Hi Jim,
I like that `custom/melissa`.It matches with my leather outfits,brass knuckles .That price is a steal.
Vagabond
 
They look beautiful and look like they are built by a highly skilled craftsman. I'll be intereted in one this winter.
 
Do you offer Silver Colored, Peuter, or Gray Colored HARDWARE?


Personally am not into Gold....
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
Do you offer Silver Colored, Peuter, or Gray Colored HARDWARE?


Personally am not into Gold....

Yes, I can do silver, and I would look into any other type.
 
AuntyDan said:
Sure thing Jim. Ship me a free one and I'd love to tell you what I think about it ;-)

Seriously though, your cases look very nice, but you may want to consider restructuring your pricing until you build up a reputation. This is a common problem when people enter a specialist business like billiards, they look at the prices established manufacturers charge for similiar items and match that. I am not saying your cases are not built equally as well as a Justis or a Whitten (at least until I get that free one you are sending me!), just that if I had $400-$800 to spend on a high-end leather case I'd be inclined to choose a manufacturer with a known reputation in the industry.

As Marissa says you have a top pro who's a fan of your cases you may want to consider some kind of sponsorship arrangement to get your name known.

Thank you very much for your insight.
 
Jim

jimM said:
Please give me feed back on my cue cases. I'm a new cue case maker. I have been manufacturing holsters and quivers for about 7 years. I have tried to put the same quality into these cases as in my holsters and quivers. I would like to hear any comments that you may have. Thank you all very much.

Jim Murnak http://www.jimmurnakcuecases.com

Great looking cases you are building. Maybe I overlooked it on your site but you should include a picture of inside the case as well. Keep up the good work.
 
Very nice cases. I agree with Aunty Dan though. Your prices are the same as the "big three" (Whitten, Justis, Swift), who's are name cases. While yours may be of the same quality, you don't as of yet have the reputation as the others. This would be the only turn off to me as a potential customer.

I wish you the best of luck in the custom case business. John Collins post on here sometimes, he would be able to offer some excellence advice.

Jim
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
Great looking cases you are building. Maybe I overlooked it on your site but you should include a picture of inside the case as well. Keep up the good work.

Once you are in a specific category, click on a case and it will take you to a more detailed description with photos.
 
jimM said:
Please give me feed back on my cue cases. I'm a new cue case maker. I have been manufacturing holsters and quivers for about 7 years. I have tried to put the same quality into these cases as in my holsters and quivers. I would like to hear any comments that you may have. Thank you all very much.

Jim Murnak http://www.jimmurnakcuecases.com

I think the cases show an ecclectic style. To me they seem very much thrown together, as in the elements on each one look borrowed from other casemakers. The designs are funky and remind me of me when I first started. (Before the mass-production era) I think they need a little more design polish to pull them together. For example the square brass locking mechanism looks totally out of place alongside the chrome hardware and rounded pockets.

Otherwise they look pretty good and functional. If the interior is protective then each of these unique cases is well worth the money in my opinion.

As for what you charge: Don't sweat it. Charge what YOU feel is the price YOU want for the cases. When I got started I was selling vinyl cases for $500 and up against Whitten and Justis' leather cases at $400 and had more business than I could handle. You will find customers at any price.

John
 
Very nice work! Custom leatherwork is not cheep. If you want something nice you’re going to pay for it. If anyone knows custom leatherwork done any cheaper for a job the size of a cue case let us all know. I think his prices are the going rate. If I were in the market for a custom leather case I would have no problem buying one from an unknown leatherworker that does quality work.
 
Very similiar to ...

JimS said:
They look beautiful and look like they are built by a highly skilled craftsman. I'll be intereted in one this winter.

We have a guy who makes hand tooled leather cue cases here, and yours seem
very similiar, particularly in the size of the overall case. A friend of mine had
him make him a case with all kinds of tooling on it: A 4 color Dragon, etc..
You get the idea. The case was $1300. Randy's comments were, 'I like it, but
it is so bulky and heavy'.

The problem stems from the way the cues fit inside the case that did not optimize space to where the exterior of the case could be as small as possible.
This resulted in a case that feels more like a piece of luggage than it does
a Pool case. Plus, just putting 2 'catch-all' pockets on a case anymore does
not cut it. Players want more specialized pockets that are more convenient
for them to use when playing. Like a pocket to hold 3 pieces of chalk, and
that is easy and fast to get out. Like a netted cell phone pocket. Like, not having to find, and wiggle a jump butt past everything else, and zip up again when you need your jump stick FAST, which you always do. Players do not
like having to sort through all kinds of stuff in pockets to find what they need
or want at that moment, they want specialized pockets so they can organize
the categories of items they normally carry when playing. And noone wants
to lug around a real heavy case, those cases need pop-down wheels like
on inline skates, and if I spent that much on a case, I want some sort of security device.
 
marissayi said:
Very talented work... Tony (Robles) raves about the case you made for him.

i second that......i saw tony last week, and he was showing his case to me like a kid with a new toy.

really good work sir.

VAP
 
jimM said:
Please give me feed back on my cue cases. I'm a new cue case maker. I have been manufacturing holsters and quivers for about 7 years. I have tried to put the same quality into these cases as in my holsters and quivers. I would like to hear any comments that you may have. Thank you all very much.

Jim Murnak http://www.jimmurnakcuecases.com

You need to differentiate yourself a little more from the other case makers, especially in the decorative ingredients of the cases and your descriptions.

Whitten, for example, presents cases built like fine luggage, refined and functional but not artistic. Justis is an artist, with tastefully hand tooled cases and exotic materials.

At first glance I thought your cases were Instrokes. You are obviously skilled at handsewed leathercraft. Is there any way you can emphasize this better with artistic panels, maybe with some decorative areas of Sheridan style relief carvings and more prominent hand sewn seams, similar to fancy holsters and saddles?

Chris
 
onepocketchump said:
I think the cases show an ecclectic style. To me they seem very much thrown together, as in the elements on each one look borrowed from other casemakers. The designs are funky and remind me of me when I first started. (Before the mass-production era) I think they need a little more design polish to pull them together. For example the square brass locking mechanism looks totally out of place alongside the chrome hardware and rounded pockets.

Otherwise they look pretty good and functional. If the interior is protective then each of these unique cases is well worth the money in my opinion.

As for what you charge: Don't sweat it. Charge what YOU feel is the price YOU want for the cases. When I got started I was selling vinyl cases for $500 and up against Whitten and Justis' leather cases at $400 and had more business than I could handle. You will find customers at any price.

John


John,
Your comments are very interesting although I don't particularly agree with you on some of them. Also, since beauty is in the eye of the beholder, please tell me which cases you sell so I can get a glimpse of your perspective.

Thanks,
Jim Murnak
 
Me personally, I just want a lightweight case that will protect my cues. That is why I stick by Porpers, cheap and lightweight, but still offer a decent amount of protection. I like being able to get my cues in and out myself, and also have a long pouch for my extensions, at least 14 inches long, and a roomy smaller pouch for my bridge. Both my 2x2 Porper and my 2x4 Porper work well for me, but they are rather ordinary. I would like a fancier version that stands out a little better or is more customized to me.

As far as your cases, I like them, but they look like the weigh a TON. I don't think the market is there for yet another custom casemaker that makes heavy ass leather cases...Whitten, Instroke and others have the market pretty well sewn up. Find a new niche that offers something different in the way of functionality and weight and you will really be able to take off and sell a few cases.

That's just my opinion...take it for what it's worth.

Shorty
 
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